Ernesto “Che” Guevara de la Serna. He was given the nickname “Che,” which is a commonly used term for ‘friend’ in Argentina, by the Cuban exiles before they began the invasion of Cuba.
Im pretty sure he is not american but i am and i am interested in communism its nearly the perfect system but one major issue, people are greedy. Its natural to want things for yourself and not want to share or do things for free no matter how nice you are greed sets in sooner or later. But thats just my opinion and you have yours plus i hate politics so yeah…
I dont think he is american but I am and i think communism is good, its known as the near perfect system that failed because people are naturaly greedy. It like every system has a few bugs to work out like it was a religulous nightmare for many, and it took away the right to be creative, but it also meant you were not below anyone you were as important as any celeberty and you had as much a say in how the country ran as everyone else. But thats mostly just my opinion on communism so you have yours too plus i dont like politics very much soo yeah…
No. Cuban law doesn’t acknowledge intellectual property, so the photographer (Alberto Korda, who died in 2001) had no enforceable rights to the image. He did at one point attempt to sue a company that he thought was blatantly abusing the image, but the case was settled out of court for a token sum.
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The famous poster image taken from the photo is allegedly copyright of the Italian publisher Giangiacomo Feltrinelli. Their argument for this is paper-thin, however; they claim that Korda gave them the rights in 1967 when he offered them some prints and told them they didn’t have to pay for them. Of course they didn’t have to pay for them; in Cuba you cannot own a copyright ….
Or the one with Che on it that says “Hippies Smell?”
I see they took away my ref to his rather messy end. He had about 180 notches on his belt. One of my former teachers was the daughter of a doctor who had everything confiscated by las comunistas. Que ironia…
are you sayin tha reagan was NOT a murderer? are you f**kin kiddin me? One word for ya fella RESEARCH all the f**kin presindents of you country are MASS MURDERERS much worse than guevara… read a f**kin book men…
Ernesto was a catalyst in the development of one of the most successful communist attempts yet. There is always blood to be shed in revolution. name a successful one that spared every life. Look up Cuba’s literacy rate (best example to date). do any of you nay-sayers have the slightest idea what Cuba looked like before Fidel and Ernesto? not pretty. Im not out to support violence or Communism it just seems so simple for some to shun anything that goes against the “United we Spend” campaigns that saturate the US. Che was and is a National hero. Who do we have? Puppet Masters?
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW CUBA WAS BEFORE AND AFTER? It was beautiful! It was paradise! it was the US in the 1940′s and could have been as advanced as we are now of course without Castro.
Are you Cuban? Did you live in Cuba at any time in your life? I DID! 20 years! of my life wasted in misery and hungrer. Get your history right. It is infuriating and sad that anyone would consider this murderer a a National hero.
And I want the US to stop the stupid boycott on trade and travel with Cuba. The US openly trades with the likes of China and Russia (even Soviet Russia, back in the day) and other countries whose leaders have more blood on their hands than Fidel and his cronies (like Che – who was set up)
All the embargo does is keep US trade and commerce from coming into the country. The Revolution and the Bay of Pigs incident was way too long ago for there to still be an embargo.
AMEN!!! The US considered Communist China to be “friends” despite its admission of torture and imprisonment of people for no apparent reason, yet there is still an embargo on Cuba. It makes no sense. Both sides — Cuba and the US would gain from open trade.
Why continue to punish Cuba for something that happened over 40 years ago that had no real effect on the US. (But cut off Cuba from its closest neighbour.)
“Ernesto was a catalyst in the development of one of the most successful communist attempts yet.”
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If you mean to say that Guevera was a major factor in causing the Cuban revolution to occur, then that is a widely believed piece of mythologising but it is not really true. It is true that he played a pivotal role in converting their philosophy to communism, and a pivotal role that cemented them as a semi-independent player in the communist “Eastern bloc.”
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However he had little to do with the start of the Cuban revolution and less to do with its success. Castro’s 26th of July Movement was founded in 1952 and carried out their first guerrilla operations in 1953. Guevera didn’t even join it until June 1955 !! Some idea of how much influence he had at that early stage is given by the name: it is based on a Catholic saint’s day (a saint who helped expel the Moors from Spain, chosen since Batista was part Negro), hardly something the strongly anti-clerical Guevera would approve of.
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If you mean that his philosophy of guerrilla warfare was pivotal in their victory, you couldn’t be more wrong. Every revolution based on Che’s handbook failed. He was a lousy tactician who had little or nothing to do with Castro’s victories; his principle role was as a medical officer and political commissar. In the latter role, he was responsible for identifying and executing villagers in the Sierra de Cristal who were thought to be Batista sympathisers.
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“There is always blood to be shed in revolution. name a successful one that spared every life.”
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Easy: People Power Revolution in the Philippines, Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia, Singing Revolution in Estonia, Prague Spring, and many others; the Wikipedia article lists dozens.
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“Look up Cuba’s literacy rate (best example to date).”
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There’s no point; it will be government propaganda. The clearest example of this is the fabled very high rate of doctors per capita. Completely independent investigations concluded — to their embarrassment, because they hadn’t intended to do this — that the figure is grossly padded. Basically they included in their count every medical person who has completed some sort of formal course. Most of these Cuban “doctors” are actually just first aiders who wouldn’t qualify as a nurse or paramedic in any other country. The real figure actually leaves them worse than most third world countries.
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The literacy rate is probably the same, although of course it is nearly impossible to prove.
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“do any of you nay-sayers have the slightest idea what Cuba looked like before Fidel and Ernesto?”
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Yes. There is no doubt that the Batista regime was thoroughly corrupt — however, there is little evidence to support the claims that the regime was violent or oppressive *prior* to the beginning of the revolution. In fact the Batista coup (which occurred only 3 years before the 26th of July Movement re-invaded the island on Granma) was largely non-violent, and there were no anti-Batista protests. The economy was poor and almost entirely agrarian but developing rapidly. Batista was himself a union man who (in his forst elected term, not after the coup) introduced strong labour protection laws and a social welfare safety net. To give some idea of how “brutal” they were, consider the time that Fidel Castro spent in prison in 1955. The Minister of the Interior, Ramón Hermida, heard that the prisoner was depressed so he personally visited him in prison to cheer him up and offer life advice! Later Castro was simply released in a general amnesty, having served just 1 year of his 15 year sentence for murder! Later, when the second phase of the revolution began they regretted this munificence and indeed started to reply to brutality with brutality: but it was 26th of July that started it.
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In any case, that is a non-argument; you might as well say that Stalin is OK because at least he was replacing the Tsars.
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“so simple for some to shun anything that goes against the “United we Spend” campaigns that saturate the US. Che was and is a National hero. Who do we have? Puppet Masters?”
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Oh the irony. These t-shirts are *exactly* what it is you are despising. 99% of the kids wearing them couldn’t tell you 3 interesting facts about Guevera, and don’t care anyway. They get them because they are “cool”.
Roger: 10 Gold Stars for that post. Most people *do not* read history, and even those that do do not question it if the ‘people in charge” say that it is true.
Our ‘capitalist made text books’ are made by companies that have absolutely nothing to gain from skewing the facts, here in America we have the right to publish what we want, and the vast majority of history texts we have are completely true as far as anyone can accurately recollect.
actually, the fact that they are made by companies means that they have EVERYTHING to gain from skewing the facts. if the U.S. converted to communism, the company wouldn’t exist any more
arguing on the internet is like taking part in the paralympics. Even if you win you’re still retarded.
Just keep that in mind fellow Che lovers and Che haters.
He was just a motherf***ing communist who killed innocent people, but u americans are not educated enough to have any f***ing idea who was that piece of s**t motherf***er!
And he also crowned Fidel Castro and made Cuba the happiest place in the world… then he went so save the very last unicorn and traveled the whole world so fast that he traveled in time back so he can save Jesus
Did you know that a sizable percentage of the British population believe that certain historical figures, including Che Guevara, Florence Nightingale, and Jesse James are fictional? It’s true.
He’s just infiltrated
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cliche guevara
Mucho LULZ, comrade AYS!
I SERIOUSLY do NOT know that guy’s name! FFS SOMEONE TELL MEH.
Ernesto Guevara
LOL his name is Che Guevara
Ernesto “Che” Guevara de la Serna. He was given the nickname “Che,” which is a commonly used term for ‘friend’ in Argentina, by the Cuban exiles before they began the invasion of Cuba.
*liberation of cuba
Ryan BAMF you know you’re right
liberation? It’s this man’s fault that my country is a communist wasteland.
No, it’s the fault of America and the rest of the capitlast world that your country is a communist wasteland instead of a communist paradise.
You’re a stellar example of how the American education system has failed.
There is no such thing as a communist paradise.
Im pretty sure he is not american but i am and i am interested in communism its nearly the perfect system but one major issue, people are greedy. Its natural to want things for yourself and not want to share or do things for free no matter how nice you are greed sets in sooner or later. But thats just my opinion and you have yours plus i hate politics so yeah…
I dont think he is american but I am and i think communism is good, its known as the near perfect system that failed because people are naturaly greedy. It like every system has a few bugs to work out like it was a religulous nightmare for many, and it took away the right to be creative, but it also meant you were not below anyone you were as important as any celeberty and you had as much a say in how the country ran as everyone else. But thats mostly just my opinion on communism so you have yours too plus i dont like politics very much soo yeah…
“Che” is a word used in Buenos Aires to have someone’s attention.., like “Hey!”.., and then the rest of the sentence.
it is used in Argentina in general, not only Buenos Aires
Lol, am I the only Argentinian here?
no capo.. pero los yankis no entienden ni la mitad de las cosas
jajaja, vamos los pibes!
I was in Cuba in January and Che is on EVERYTHING and EVERYWHERE. What I want to know is: Does anyone get royalties every time that picture is used?
Yes, my ass does.
Maybe Che gets the royalties on that Island where is lives with Tupac, JFK, Marilyn and JFK?
Yo, Arnie, you forgot Elvis!
thankyaverrymuch
Totally. And I need it too, Elvis cheats in poker.
Both JFK’s? That’s intense.
The reason that his stuff was everywhere is so that he stays a national hero, in keeping with Fidel’s propaganda.
No. Cuban law doesn’t acknowledge intellectual property, so the photographer (Alberto Korda, who died in 2001) had no enforceable rights to the image. He did at one point attempt to sue a company that he thought was blatantly abusing the image, but the case was settled out of court for a token sum.
.
The famous poster image taken from the photo is allegedly copyright of the Italian publisher Giangiacomo Feltrinelli. Their argument for this is paper-thin, however; they claim that Korda gave them the rights in 1967 when he offered them some prints and told them they didn’t have to pay for them. Of course they didn’t have to pay for them; in Cuba you cannot own a copyright ….
Your Mom does.
Wait, what?
royalties are for capitalists.. The “Che” image is public domain
I prefer the t-shirt that has Che with a red slash through him and the caption “Commies Aren’t Cool”.
THAT’S BECAUSE you live in the usa AND you can’t have a chance of knowing what communism is.. neither can you fellow yankers
Yes because we “yankers” apparently can’t research it on the f**king INTERNET to know that it’s a s**tty political system you daft bastard!
Yea, because abusing the poor to get richer is a way better system?
Or the one with Che on it that says “Hippies Smell?”
I see they took away my ref to his rather messy end. He had about 180 notches on his belt. One of my former teachers was the daughter of a doctor who had everything confiscated by las comunistas. Que ironia…
Mind the Gap. Or this happens.
Nice drawing of a glorified mass murderer…
read some history
He did. That’s why he said what he said.
if “mass murder” means killing the capitalist pigs that are ruining the world, then i am all for that
Just think, he would have shot you in the back of the head for buying that shirt, and for posting it on this site.
Just like he did that 14yo boy whose crime was defending his father.
almost everyone who has made their mark on history is a murderer, get over it
Yeah, so Martin Luther king, JFK, Ronald Reagan, George Washington, Lincoln, and ghandi were all murderers?
are you sayin tha reagan was NOT a murderer? are you f**kin kiddin me? One word for ya fella RESEARCH all the f**kin presindents of you country are MASS MURDERERS much worse than guevara… read a f**kin book men…
STFU, read some history
Is there an echo in here? Does anyone else here an echo in here, because I think there’s an echo in here.
An echo that gets angrier when it comes back!
Hey, I think there’s an echo in here.
Hmm is that an echo I hear
Ernesto was a catalyst in the development of one of the most successful communist attempts yet. There is always blood to be shed in revolution. name a successful one that spared every life. Look up Cuba’s literacy rate (best example to date). do any of you nay-sayers have the slightest idea what Cuba looked like before Fidel and Ernesto? not pretty. Im not out to support violence or Communism it just seems so simple for some to shun anything that goes against the “United we Spend” campaigns that saturate the US. Che was and is a National hero. Who do we have? Puppet Masters?
The Dance Dance Revolution!
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW CUBA WAS BEFORE AND AFTER? It was beautiful! It was paradise! it was the US in the 1940′s and could have been as advanced as we are now of course without Castro.
Are you Cuban? Did you live in Cuba at any time in your life? I DID! 20 years! of my life wasted in misery and hungrer. Get your history right. It is infuriating and sad that anyone would consider this murderer a a National hero.
Amen –
And I want the US to stop the stupid boycott on trade and travel with Cuba. The US openly trades with the likes of China and Russia (even Soviet Russia, back in the day) and other countries whose leaders have more blood on their hands than Fidel and his cronies (like Che – who was set up)
All the embargo does is keep US trade and commerce from coming into the country. The Revolution and the Bay of Pigs incident was way too long ago for there to still be an embargo.
AMEN!!! The US considered Communist China to be “friends” despite its admission of torture and imprisonment of people for no apparent reason, yet there is still an embargo on Cuba. It makes no sense. Both sides — Cuba and the US would gain from open trade.
Why continue to punish Cuba for something that happened over 40 years ago that had no real effect on the US. (But cut off Cuba from its closest neighbour.)
i’m going to guess you were upper middle to upper class. obviously upper class people don’t support communism.
“Ernesto was a catalyst in the development of one of the most successful communist attempts yet.”
.
If you mean to say that Guevera was a major factor in causing the Cuban revolution to occur, then that is a widely believed piece of mythologising but it is not really true. It is true that he played a pivotal role in converting their philosophy to communism, and a pivotal role that cemented them as a semi-independent player in the communist “Eastern bloc.”
.
However he had little to do with the start of the Cuban revolution and less to do with its success. Castro’s 26th of July Movement was founded in 1952 and carried out their first guerrilla operations in 1953. Guevera didn’t even join it until June 1955 !! Some idea of how much influence he had at that early stage is given by the name: it is based on a Catholic saint’s day (a saint who helped expel the Moors from Spain, chosen since Batista was part Negro), hardly something the strongly anti-clerical Guevera would approve of.
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If you mean that his philosophy of guerrilla warfare was pivotal in their victory, you couldn’t be more wrong. Every revolution based on Che’s handbook failed. He was a lousy tactician who had little or nothing to do with Castro’s victories; his principle role was as a medical officer and political commissar. In the latter role, he was responsible for identifying and executing villagers in the Sierra de Cristal who were thought to be Batista sympathisers.
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“There is always blood to be shed in revolution. name a successful one that spared every life.”
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Easy: People Power Revolution in the Philippines, Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia, Singing Revolution in Estonia, Prague Spring, and many others; the Wikipedia article lists dozens.
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“Look up Cuba’s literacy rate (best example to date).”
.
There’s no point; it will be government propaganda. The clearest example of this is the fabled very high rate of doctors per capita. Completely independent investigations concluded — to their embarrassment, because they hadn’t intended to do this — that the figure is grossly padded. Basically they included in their count every medical person who has completed some sort of formal course. Most of these Cuban “doctors” are actually just first aiders who wouldn’t qualify as a nurse or paramedic in any other country. The real figure actually leaves them worse than most third world countries.
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The literacy rate is probably the same, although of course it is nearly impossible to prove.
.
“do any of you nay-sayers have the slightest idea what Cuba looked like before Fidel and Ernesto?”
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Yes. There is no doubt that the Batista regime was thoroughly corrupt — however, there is little evidence to support the claims that the regime was violent or oppressive *prior* to the beginning of the revolution. In fact the Batista coup (which occurred only 3 years before the 26th of July Movement re-invaded the island on Granma) was largely non-violent, and there were no anti-Batista protests. The economy was poor and almost entirely agrarian but developing rapidly. Batista was himself a union man who (in his forst elected term, not after the coup) introduced strong labour protection laws and a social welfare safety net. To give some idea of how “brutal” they were, consider the time that Fidel Castro spent in prison in 1955. The Minister of the Interior, Ramón Hermida, heard that the prisoner was depressed so he personally visited him in prison to cheer him up and offer life advice! Later Castro was simply released in a general amnesty, having served just 1 year of his 15 year sentence for murder! Later, when the second phase of the revolution began they regretted this munificence and indeed started to reply to brutality with brutality: but it was 26th of July that started it.
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In any case, that is a non-argument; you might as well say that Stalin is OK because at least he was replacing the Tsars.
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“so simple for some to shun anything that goes against the “United we Spend” campaigns that saturate the US. Che was and is a National hero. Who do we have? Puppet Masters?”
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Oh the irony. These t-shirts are *exactly* what it is you are despising. 99% of the kids wearing them couldn’t tell you 3 interesting facts about Guevera, and don’t care anyway. They get them because they are “cool”.
Roger: 10 Gold Stars for that post. Most people *do not* read history, and even those that do do not question it if the ‘people in charge” say that it is true.
and where did you get that? in your capitalist-made text books?
Our ‘capitalist made text books’ are made by companies that have absolutely nothing to gain from skewing the facts, here in America we have the right to publish what we want, and the vast majority of history texts we have are completely true as far as anyone can accurately recollect.
actually, the fact that they are made by companies means that they have EVERYTHING to gain from skewing the facts. if the U.S. converted to communism, the company wouldn’t exist any more
I heard that Prague apartments are very bad. Is that true?
arguing on the internet is like taking part in the paralympics. Even if you win you’re still retarded.
Just keep that in mind fellow Che lovers and Che haters.
Special Olympics, not paralympics. The paralympics are for physically handicapped competitors. The Special Olympics are the ‘tards.
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.
He was just a motherf***ing communist who killed innocent people, but u americans are not educated enough to have any f***ing idea who was that piece of s**t motherf***er!
And your from, where?
He lives next to the Starbuck’s. The one shouting “show some respect, I fought the commies in ‘Nam”, not the one willing to work for food.
I would say that he was a hero, and start a flame war, but I’m in a good mood today so I won’t…..
He was a hero!!!
He was a douche.
45 years and still not f**king dead enough.
snicker.
C’mon guys, that silly man were actually a psychopath, trying to kill as many men as he can. He also made Fidel Castro.
And he also crowned Fidel Castro and made Cuba the happiest place in the world… then he went so save the very last unicorn and traveled the whole world so fast that he traveled in time back so he can save Jesus
¡Menos camisetas y más revolución!
Less t-shirts and more revolution!
Did you know that a sizable percentage of the British population believe that certain historical figures, including Che Guevara, Florence Nightingale, and Jesse James are fictional? It’s true.
What’s the matter demotivational? Censoring comments now if they mention what a bunch of douchebags the occupoopers are?