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this basically sums up about 80% of Americans.
probably more, but I’m trying to be nice.
eh… 72% of all statistics are made up on the spot anyway…
…89.34% of people know that.
yet only .5% will acknowledge that fact
And another 35% are likely to start a C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!!
im of the other 50% that dont care
“Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”
The combo was broken. I’m sorry, but your comment = fail
Dohohohoho
And 68.3% of those made-up statistics are never questioned…
I question that statistic.
You got us. It’s really 68.2%
80% of Canadians can’t name a single person in their government. Most Canadians don’t know that the Queen of England is their official head of state either.
Do we live in the same Canada?
That statistic is not only completely made up, it’s not even marginally believable. back up your crazy talk please.
Technically, the Queen actually only has power over Canada when she’s in Canada.
Otherwise, the Governor General has that power. And I’m pretty sure most Canadians can name their prime minister. Most also the governor general. Some even their premier.
Only think you’ve proven is that you’re an idiot.
Regardless, how is that even relevant?
You are an idiot. Here’s one:
Prime Minister: Stephen Harper (who, I might add, is also an idiot. Maybe you should get together sometime.)
CANADA IS JUST AMERICA’S HAT!! Everyone knows that!!!
And Mexico is our beard!!
So very true!!
its funny coz thats basicly what george bush did, except he demanded everyone else loose their freedom for his stupid behavior
lol bloody 12 year olds think they know everything. Stop listening to Fox.
If he was listening to Fox then he’d be blaming it all on Obama.
Actually, if anyone paid attention to the news they’d know -
1: The current economic situation has been traced back to Bill Clinton’s presidency.
2: Obama IS making things even worse.
In fact, Obama has done so many bad things now, even Barbara Streisand is snubbing him! THAT is how bad a president Obama is.
Yeah, because it’s totally Bill Clinton’s fault for leaving a budget surplus behind for George Bush to turn into a record deficit and economic mess that needs more spending and taxes to fix. Obama is just try to do his job, and you are not helping anyone by being a ass about it.
It was Bill Clinton who started the “Home Loans for Deadbeats” program that was the root cause of the current economic problems. Add in Clinton’s NAFTA shipping the manufacturing base overseas and yes, you can trace it back to Clinton.
So it was Clinton’s fault that the republican majority voted in NAFTA, and had enough votes to over-ride any VETO he placed upon it huh?
And either way, NAFTA=North American Free Trade Agreement; can you please tell me where China and India fit into North America?
Go read some history.
Allright boys, enough flaming. take this conversation over to pundit.
in fact, I think this poster would be better in pundit.
Have you ever worked in manufacturing? Working in Walmart pays just as well and shipping things over seas actually allows more Americans to invent stuff and start their own business with.
Um, no, pretty much everything you said is wrong. Try reading an economics book some time.
the home loan problem was a response to soaring home costs. it was trying to make property ownership — a core conservative value — possible for the average middle class family, not merely for the rich. in fifteen years, home prices in certain areas went up by a factor of ten while wages went up by 5% — and if the couple in question was a one-income family, there was no way of ever not renting.
clinton was also a moderate president, who got bashed for doing too much to appease the conservatives (by the liberals) and for being way too liberal (by the conservatives). nobody’s happy unless you’re drinking THEIR koolaid…
however, lower-income housing is defaulting at a significantly lower rate than jumbo mortgages, so the “deadbeats” you like to think of are actually the upper-middle class…who could have gotten loans anyway.
One man’s “economic surplus” is another man’s “already-popping dot-com bubble that has nothing to do with the previous administration”.
Republican controlled congress during Clinton administration left a surplus. Democratic congress during Bush and Obama screwed us. Bush made many mistakes, but Clinton and Obama made far worse. Every day Obama makes things worse, along with Reid and Pelosi.
look at current reports — economists the world over are actually applauding how this is being handled.
this time, we didn’t go for a quick fix. some of the actual problems that the people in question wouldn’t fix, the government is preventatively trying to fix now. economics is about long-term trends. it’s hard to talk about even a decade in economic terms. so blaming one session of congress is really not the way it works…
btw… if you think that the financial regs were a step out of order, that made things worse, consider that countries that don’t scream and whine about regulations were the least hit by the economic crunch. the s&l scams, the toxic mortgages (most of which were not part of the clinton plan, most of which were actually well-off people buying lavish homes they could barely afford and losing them when interest rates went up on their adjustable-rate mortgage), none of these things happen to a dangerous degree if we admit that businesses will, in fact, cheat to get ahead and we allow the law to try to stop it…
did you just say we didnt go for a quick fix? what do you call throwing more money at banks than bush spent in 8 years? i certainly know that its not a quick fix.
p.s. comment has drowned in sarcasm.
yeah, they are applauding world wide because they see the US economy failing. There are a large number of countries out there that want nothing more than to see this country fail.
Its not ‘being an ass’ to point out that Obama is, in fact, NOT doing his job. If he were, he wouldn’t be passing bills that We the People voted AGAINST, our economy wouldn’t be continuing to decline, we wouldn’t have 400,000+ people applying for unemployment each WEEK, and he wouldn’t be lying to us about it.
Actully, creating and passing bills are the responsibility of the legislative branch, not the executive. The president does not create laws, he is merely the most powerful lobbyist in the country and has the responsibility to sign bills into law. If you chose to critique the president, attack him for what he has vetoed.
‘We the people’ did not vote on these bills, our representatives have done so in our name. It is easy to show your displeasure, vote against them at their next election.
I respect those who hold government accountable, and those who disagree on my views of how best to run our country using a valid argument. I lack any respect for those who cannot understand the basic law of the land and the concept of three independent branches of government and a system of checks and balances.
“It is easy to show your displeasure, vote against them at their next election” qfe
If only it were that easy, if only the next guy from who cares what party was’nt going to sell us out like every other idealist candidate that gets to washington.
The current political system is riddled with corruption, big business and the rich flood representatives with money to buy votes the way they want, does’nt matter what there people want…money talks and little people walk…right into poverty.
Can you please tell me when “We, the People” voted against these? I don’t remember these bills ever being on a ballot.
I actually support money being used to help rebuild the economy. It was George Bush’s deregulation of Oil Futures, Wall Street, and banks that put our economy in this situation, and you expect them to be fixed within a year and a half? Pray tell, how would you fix it? Keep the “Welfare for the Rich” in place, which has cost us over 5.8 Trillion in 7 years? I didn’t see any jobs being created when the top 1% didn’t have to pay taxes.
I am sorry, but you fail at civics.
The government of the United States of America is a democratically elected representative republic, not a direct democracy.
Now, please STFU.
You screwed the pooch with the “STFU”.
So in other words, “We the People” in your eyes, is anyone who agrees with you, and the rest don’t count? That appears to be more of a dictatorship than a democracy. Just so you know, we are a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. If this were a true democracy, we would be voting on each bill instead of a congress. And if we are voting for people who represent us, then explain how John Boehner claimed nobody in his district wanted single-payer health care, at the same time there were 1500 people outside his office (from his district) that wanted it?
Now, if you want to refute something someone said, try to stay on the subject of that person’s post instead of shooting it off at a tangent with your weak, thinly-veiled insults.
what is this “we the people” crap? that’s a sound byte if i’ve ever heard one…
do you honestly expect that economics works like a game of monopoly, where one round more might make you everything back if you roll the dice right? trends take years, some decades, to fully take effect.
it is, for the record, “being an ass” to be so blatantly partisan. things are bad. if the two parties could work together –that is, if the dems were a little less superior and listened to more moderate ideas, and if the gop would actually do THEIR jobs and not just vote down every idea proposed by a dem, we’d have better luck.
for the record, i should point out that you’re quick to decry these supposed obama-bills, but there hasn’t been a single piece of data about the people’s approval or disapproval of any bill but the healthcare one that’s come from a nonbiased source. and if you discount that terribly-worded one that lumped all the people unhappy with the healthcare bill due to conservative opposition with those upset because they wanted the government-option (and didn’t think the bill went far enough), there has never been any data saying that the majority of americans did not want the bill.
on the other hand, 10% of the country are being told he’s the antichrist by their pastors (and they always mention race), 15% still think he’s muslim, but were ready to be angry about his connection with rev. wright. 5% refuse to believe that he’s an american citizen or that he has proven such despite evidence to the contrary (it was faked), 10% believe that dungeons and dragons is devil worship, 10% believe that an american soap company is a front for a satanic cult, and a larger percentage than any country except turkey adamantly deny that evolution could exist.
this is what freedom of speech gives us when abused or not coupled with a proper education — people legally being able to, and morally feeling the need to, spout off every crazy or stupid idea that comes to them. but they have the right to voice it, even when it’s wrong. so you have the right to voice your opinion, even though in your world, economics is made of fairy dust and magic gold coins from the fat white dudes in the sky…
tl;dr.
You should visit pundit.
Re: Constution – tl;dr (and the parent shows this to be true)
Barbara Streisand’s thoughts are how we’re measuring the successes and failures of our country’s leaders with? I find this most unsettling.
they’re Not citing Babs as a Litmus Test of American Opinion… more seeing her as the lead rat in an exodus from the Good Ship Liberal Pop
Actually this current economic situation can be traced, quite clearly back to George H.W and Ronald Reagan. How both were big proponents of cutting taxes, but when that unfortunately failed they had to raise them. “Read my lips, no new taxes! Oh wait…”
Trace it then. Give us examples of how this can be traced back. Incidentally, since congress controls the money, you need to include the legislation that the presidents supported and ratified to prove this. We’ll be waiting for your examples.
It can all be traced back to Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Washington and the like.
If they had just left US as a part of the British Empire then we wouldn’t be in this mess.
I shudder to think of the messes that could have come from that, but they wouldn’t be **THIS** mess.
Well here is an article from Forbes, which I think we can agree is a reputable source for information.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/02/barack-obama-ronald-reagan-budget-taxes-opinions-contributors-rob-shapiro.html
Here is another on how after Reagan’s claim to fame, his heroic tax cut of 1981 was partially rescinded. The 1982 tax equity and fiscal responsibility act. Here is a brief description.
http://www.investorwords.com/6700/Tax_Equity_and_Fiscal_Responsibility_Act_of_1982.html
My point being that cutting taxes for the upper taxes and hoping for the “trickle down” effect to work is just being delusional. Reaganomics failed, Reagan himself noted that in his autobiography. During both Reagan and H.W. Bush, substantial taxes cuts were enacted only later to be repealed do to the harm it ultimately caused. So this whole belief in “Reaganomics” that is was a huge success is a complete misconception. And it has been shown on three different accounts, during Reagan’s presidency, and both Bush presidencies.
Well here is an article from Forbes, I think we can all agree that Forbes is a reputable source for information.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/02/barack-obama-ronald-reagan-budget-taxes-opinions-contributors-rob-shapiro.html
This article here explains the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982, which was enacted after Reagan’s major tax cuts began to run awry as the economy began to fail.
http://www.investorwords.com/6700/Tax_Equity_and_Fiscal_Responsibility_Act_of_1982.html
My point is that the whole flawed belief in Reaganomics is what lead to this current economic situation. Repeatedly it has been shown that the “trickle down” theory that Reaganomics was based on just does not work. Under three presidencies, Reagan, and both Bushes it has lead to a failing economy. Reagan in his own biography states that one of his biggest regrets was the failure of Reaganomics.
It can be traced all the way back to Alexander Hamilton and the Central Bank, actually. Or a host of other bad decisions through the years. Few Presidents didn’t increase the size and scope of the government, and the more intervention the government has, the more the market is disrupted, leading to things like recessions.
the more the businesses take advantage of the market, the more the market is disrupted when they are called on their bad behavior. let’s call it like it is — businesses are usually good, but when they have pressure on them from investors to increase values, they’re more like bullies taking everyone else’s lunch money. it’s those businesses that get regulated, once someone scams people and creates a problem, not the big bad government looking to tattle on the bad kids.
if businesses were ethical, the government would never have to regulate. the top investors and CEOs would make less money, the average person would make more, growth would be slower but more consistent across the board, and the taxpayers would save billions each year dealing with shady execs being taken to court. you would also get a free puppy, politicians would never lie, political commentators would not be looked to for actual news reporting, and unicorns would hand out free ice cream and cancer would just make you hiccup.
Few Presidents didn’t increase the size and scope of the government, and the more intervention the government has, the more the market is disrupted, leading to things like recessions.*
*Post 1920.
From 1776 to 1920, the USA government fluctuated from 3% to 5% of GNP (outside of wartime). Once the 19th Amendment was passed, the USA government grew from 3% of GNP to just about 40% of GNP now. States which allowed Women’s Suffrage prior to 1920 had their state budgets expand quickly after allowing so.
All countries which have allowed Women’s Suffrage have had exponential government growth once they have allowed women to influence government. Even Switzerland, which maintained a small government until 1971, expanded with bloat once they allowed Women’s Suffrage in that year.
It’s not politically correct, but I’m finding out more and more that truth rarely is.
tl;dr
Hint: Wikipedia is not a reliable source of info.
Nor is 4chan.
Actually, I think Jami got the info from Conservapedia.
How about Fox News? Oh, I forgot, they’re all racist bigots. Honestly, stop misusing tl;dr, because that was about four sentences. If that was too long, then you must be either in third grade, or you don’t speak English. And your next response should be tl;dr
umad?
No, but you kind of looked like it up there.
Really? Perhaps you should back that claim up, instead of just attacking people.
This isn’t our first recession, it won’t be our last. If everyone in the country was an economist, we would still be in a recession. The leadership doesn’t affect it quite as much as you’d think, there are a thousand factors to add together. The fact of the matter is, if any of you were elected as president, you’d fail. You can pretend it’s an easy job, but you have to take care of thousands of things at once, and no matter how well you do… no one will be satisfied.
Please learn to spell. Thank you.
12 year olds should not be going to wikipedia for news tyranid, It makes them stupid and spell stuff wrong.
So your telling me this is God’s fault for creating the universe. (Or if you are a f*** it was science’s fault)
It’s funny that you can’t capitalize.
It’s so sad that this applies so much. And to people on both sides of the so-called “cultural divide”.
SIXTH!
anyways, this poster is so true. I wish that it wasn’t, but it is. So many people have NO CLUE what half of it is. Sad thing is by saying this I make myself a hypocrite because I don’t know a lot of it, but I do know better than to whine about stupid behavior.
The 19 people who downed this watches fox
….what is wrong with fox?
the infamous ‘hackers on steroids’ report, Bush warrior Bill O’Reilly, creationists etc. And no, I do not support Democrats. Libertarianism for the win!
fox’s news reporting is average.
it has far more commentators than necessary, though. and the ones that it has are very outspoken, and very biased. and they are willing to present themselves as real news, and people watch them for information instead of opinion.
i blame the educational system. and i’m a teacher. the cuts to education that reagan pioneered, bush redoubled 9especially if you count his NCLB travesty) and no president since has repaired have really made the american people pretty gullible.
Actually I watch Fox News and I gave it a thumbs up. It’s not a Democrat vs. Republican idea because both sides do this waaay toooo often.
or like Obama.
But you see, that’s larger than the entire viewership for MSNBC. And I watch Fox News, and didn’t downvote it.
Anyway, you exemplify a serious divide in the commenters on this picture. Half of them say “The poster is a stupid Fox News watcher.” while the other half say “All the people who don’t like it are stupid Fox News watchers.” Instead of all of you making fun of Fox News, why don’t you get your act together and not contradict each other. That’s pretty silly, in my opinion.
And they know exactly what they are talking about. And you probably meant “watch”, not “watches”. And the company is called Fox News Channel, not “fox”. We aren’t watching and adorable canine-like animal in the forest.
The 200 peopled who voted this up all watch MSNBC while reading the New York Times while wearing a Che shirt with a joint in one hand and a burning American flag in the other, all while riding in the back seat of a baby blue Prius on the way to a violent protest outside a church to burn more flags and effigies of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh to the tune of Imagine by John Lennon.
Se, I can stereotype too.
You mean see not se
No no, his mistake was thinking that there’s 200 viewers on MSNBC.
You can buy che shirts at The Gap now…
Srsly?
You guys still get your news from biased, partisan cable TV networks – and knock on each other for not watching the same bile you do? Shame.
like.
CNN, MSNBC… Whatever.
The Bill of Rights protects your right to use your half-assed understanding to demand “Freedom” for stupid behavior. At the time it was written, there was no other document like it in the history of mankind. No too shabby for an bunch of dead white guys. Too bad it’s been misused, abused and in some cases just plain trampled during the past couple of centuries.
Actually the Bill of Rights was strongly influenced by the Magna Carta, so… not exactly the first of it’s kind document-wise.
its not a bill of rights, its a bill of temporary privileges that can be taken away by the government whenever it want’s, we have no “rights”
thank you george carlin
Actually, it is a bill of rights to be free of things, not a bill of rights to things.
Where the government went wrong is when it started granting rights TO things.
Liberty is what we have, not freedom. liberty is freedom ‘with restrictions’
And the government should NOT be free to take away ALL of our privaleges, especially the ones that are granted us by the amendment. SO STOP BANNING OUR GUNS, DANGIT!!!!
Looks like we got ourselves another George Carlin fanatic on our hands… They’re a blast. Should we let it go so we don’t end up with another PK?
How did this become about Fox News? There are plenty of people on both sides who a craptastic understanding of the Constitution. A better caption would be “… and we can pass any dumbass law we want.”
because glenn beck uses it to be a rasict asshat
Prove to me that Glenn Beck is a racist. His own words please. You get my congrats if you succeed.
I think we’re all still waiting on his response.
*crickets*
sorry about the blank shot : /
Nathan Daniels: Before you start pointing out grammar/spelling errors, you should check your own post!
the reply button feels lonely
I was pretty much under the impression that the Bill of Rights exists to limit the government’s powers. As such, yeah, it DOES ensure that people within the United States have certain freedoms, and people CAN use those freedoms to do stupid things.
Issues come in when people assume that having a freedom to do stupid things means that they are legally protected from the social consequences of being stupid.
Wow, even the Bill of Rights devolves almost instantly into Us-vs-Them crap between political extremists. And here I was hoping that the United States Constitution was the one thing we could all agree was good…
We do all agree that the US Constitution is good, we just all think that it buttresses our side of the argument. Interpretation is everything.
Especially when one side can magically write in new rights without the amendment process. That makes it the best!
*cough* Glenn Beck *cough*
i like how everyone always jumps to conclusions.
-oh a racist comment, must be fox news
-oh something that says illegal immigration is illegal, must be fox news
-oh free health care isnt actually free, must more fox news propaganda
why can we not agree that fox news is conservative and msnbc, abc, cbs, cnn and pretty much all other news channels are liberal? and why must everyone be so fucking ignorant and always blame the president for bad things that happen to the country? congress is what controls most of what happens. the president is pretty much the hero or the goat, he is just a face to blame.
just some thoughts for the idiots
“Why can we not agree that fox news is conservative…” Because Fox News lies. Their viewers are entitled to their own ideology, but not to their own facts.
Most incisive political comment in the last twenty years, by Colbert: “Reality has a well-known liberal bias.”
wow thanks for making a dumb comment. “‘Why can we not agree that fox news is conservative…’Because Fox News lies.” because they lie we cant agree that they are conservative? you make so much sense. good one.
You were making a false equivalence. Basically, you were saying Fox News is x, but everybody else is y, so why can’t we all just get along? Fox News may be conservative, but if they lie, they’re not news; and from my point of view, if the argument in this country is driven on one side by liars and craziness, political debate is left to no one but idiots. You’re not just talking about the difference between conservative and liberal, you’re talking about one entity (Fox News) that sells fear, lies, and propaganda vs. the rest of the country. Those two sides are not the same and shouldn’t be considered equivalent as valid, rational choices.
I think it’s a silly statement to blame everyone for being idiots when the “news” that they’re getting is so skewed and ridiculous. That’s why I commented on your post.
Fox News lies?
Dan Rather.
You may now STF U.
One person caught in a mistake / lie does not mean someone else doesn’t. Everyone should get multiple sources of info, or else we’re all guilty of tl;dr
prove when Fox News lied. Go ahead, you can’t do it. Mainly because you can’t call someone’s opinion a lie. Just because you don’t agree with it, doesn’t make it wrong, or a lie.
This took no time, and they were caught by Comedy Central! http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-10-2009/sean-hannity-uses-glenn-beck-s-protest-footage
That’s just a slow pitch there.
Really? I’d love to see some of these lies.
I don’t want to see any simple mistakes or retractions, I want to see out and out lies that you claim they make up all the time.
Show me fox’s lies, and I’ll show you the multitude of the new york time’s lies.
Colbert is a comedian… you know this, right? His job is to say funny and ironic statements. Not to educate the masses.
i agree with you about the president but 90% of news ignorance is fox
I can say the exact same thing about MSNBC or CNN…
except that would be an opinion, not based on any fact other than what fox pundits like to air but never back up.
whereas fox has been sued on more than one occasion for misreporting, to the point where their commentators have a “for entertainment only” disclaimer at the beginning of their shows (real encouraging…) to avoid further lawsuits.
cnn is, all things considered, reasonably moderate. msnbc’s pundits are mild liberals. fox pundits are hardline conservatives. it’s like comparing a light-red, a medium-green, and a black shirt and trying to convince everyone that the colors are all bright white because they are not black.
cnn used to be fairly balanced because of glenn beck. but now all they have are liberals, not reasonably moderate. the thing about msnbc’s pundits is that they are emotionless, liberal followers. that’s the reason they seem mild. imho you cant report the news without emotion. if you report on something that you’re passionate about you can’t just sit there and talk at the camera. no one is trying to say that that all the shirts are white, im trying to say that fox news is blue and cnn, msnbc, abc, and cbs are red.
Reality is subjective. Everyone thinks that their view of reality is the absolute, solid truth and that anything that contradicts their views is wrong. Really, so long as you don’t outright insult/try to kill others for disagreeing with you, you should be find.
Reality is verifiable. “Health care reform will create death panels.” Read the bill – nope, nowhere in it. Health care will not kill grandma = reality. “Death panels” = fantasy. So, instead of arguing about what, if anything, the government should do to ensure a basic level of health care for every citizen, we were stuck on arguing reality vs. fantasy and not making anything better for anyone. And everyone who says something like “Reality is subjective” is continuing the reality vs. fantasy debate, not dealing with policy in any meaningful way.
It would take too long to dispel this much sheer ignorance.
Good thing it only takes a second to insult people you disagree with. Wouldn’t want to have wasted all that time you spent reading this thread, huh?
Haha munin, real funny stuff you got there XD keep it up man. But really, MSNBC being moderate liberals has to be a joke. Have you even watched that news network? It’s probably the most biased show in the world.
I’m an American but I listen to the BBC. I don’t get any of this bias stuff because Britain could care less about domestic policy in the states.
So I found a way to be superior to all of you. HA
The BBC has it’s own slant, too. U.S. news is often reported from a “how does it affect Britain” viewpoint. Not saying that’s a bad thing, just that it’s there.
Honestly? Most BBC reporting (About non-British topics anyhow…) is accurate, unbiased, and well-produced.
That said, often when I see a BBC report about the USA, I get the feeling I am watching a report on “How our wayward kids across the pond screwed the pooch this time.” No matter WHAT the subject is.
They can be impartial about everyone else in the world, but when it comes to the US, they tend to be a bit condescending.
I’ve not noticed that they’re patronising about the USA, and I’m not from the US or from Britain. From what I’ve seen the BBC pretty much reports it as it is. Are you sure you’re not the one being biased, and when something unpleasant is reported about your country you just prefer to think they’re being unfair (I’m not accusing you of doing this deliberately, but I think it’s worth consideration)?
No. I can see the truth for what it is most times. And I do not mind the US being criticized when we do something wrong. (Which happens often, as we are always involved in high profile activities. We do not tend to sit in the background and watch, and we get a lot of our negative image from that, I think.)
Even Al-Jazeera makes some good points sometimes, and most of their content is blatantly anti-American. If I can admit that, I think I am not so much biased (or defensive) as objective on the subject.
I just get the feeling that sometimes the BBC (Not the UK in general, just the channel…) has a “Big Brother” complex regarding the US. They want to take our hands and show us our mistakes, then teach us how to do it right.
It’s different with other news-agencies… Even international ones. They may say we did something wrong, but they seem to have less “I’m better than you” attitude in their reporting.
Again, I’ve only seen this regarding the USA. And generally only in situations where Britain either is or later becomes involved in. They are THE source for most news on other subjects though.
If you use Linux, you will be truly superior. You may look down with a condescending smile on everybody else. Until then you’re vulnerable.
I’m posting this on an outdated Linux notebook. I didn’t install it, or even ask for it. It came pre-installed by the manufacturer. I don’t have it on my desktop computer either.
But regardless, it still means that I use Linux.
So according to your statement, that makes me truly superior and I can look down on you with a condescending smile.
:rolleyes:
This should be the official Tea Bagger shirt.
The subtitle was just far enough, then the footnote went too far. Sometimes it’s best to just leave the joke implied.
Good point actually. If the footnote wasn’t there, it would at least be mildly entertaining.
Congrefs?
Is it bad the first thing I notice is the typo?
I noticed that too, but I don’t think it’s a typo. I think the first S is just really long.
Correct. That “f” is really an “s”
That is just the way that font works, not a typo.
It’s the historical way of printing an additional “s”. This photo isn’t the actual Bill of Rights, anyway. Note, it’s dated March 4, 1789, and issued in New York. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms, for example, is listed in Article the Fourth. Article The Second, noted as Not Ratified, governs pay raises for the representatives, etc. I know because a copy is hanging next to me on my office wall.
There’s so much political stuff on here lol I hate politics. As long as they don’t make any stupid laws that mess with MY life then i don’t care what they do. And if they go and make any crazy rules or if things get really out of hand then I’ll go somewhere else. I have so many plans for life and then if those don’t work out I have fallback plans. then if those don’t work I have fallbacks for my fallbacks. And so on for about 5 or 10 more fallbacks (^_^)
This applies to pretty much all of you here >.>
Seriously who cares if someone misspells something. This is the internet. Grow up….
Fox is “clearly” evil and ignorant. Cause thats what Obama says :O and he is always right
versus not actually reading the United States Constitution and then being the Speaker of the House under a Democrat majority then stating that the “General Welfare” clause gives congress the authority to pass a “health care bill” no one, including the author, has bothered to read. The General Welfare clause is well-defined in Article I, Section 8 and it mentions nothing about the power of the federal government to mandate health care on the citizens. For a good explanation of the General Welfare clause, refer to Madison in Federalist 41. Basically it states that the powers of the federal government are ENUMERATED (meaning they are all explicitly listed) and LIMITED (meaning there are few of them). Whereas the powers of the state are only limited by the Constitution. This means that because of the Tenth Amendment (Bill of Rights) the power to mandate health care would fall to individual states themselves.
Hey, guess out of all of the people posting here, who has actually READ the Constitution?
And if you sheeple are going to blame anyone for this financial mess, you actually go back to Jimmy Carter and the Democrats who ran congress and passed the Community Reinvestment Act – that is what empowered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to push for home ownership in locations not deemed suitable for loans because of the neighborhoods.
Clinton’s administration pushed the CRA to greater levels (nearly 50% of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans). Reagan’s tax-cuts got us out of the Carter recession. H.W. Bush was under the control of a Democrat-controlled congress and was forced to raise EXISTING taxes and he took a hit for it. Clinton also had some tax cuts via the Republican-controlled congress. You will remember things were going pretty good under Reagan and Clinton as far as the economy was going except for the dot-com tech bubble that popped under Clinton. Which wiped out that PROJECTED budget surplus (again, the surplus was brought to you by Newt Gingrich and the balanced budget the Republicans controlling the House forced on Clinton). Bush didn’t spend it, it simply ceased to exist in 2000 – a year before any budget he signed would even become law.
The sad fact is that most of the excessive spending comes when Democrats control congress and then it goes nuts when they control congress AND the White House. If you total up the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, they don’t come close to the deficits 0bama has brought in his 2010 budget.
Bailouts in 2009, brought to you by Democrats controlling congress.
In case you morons haven’t figured it out, by reading the Constitution you will learn that CONGRESS controls regulations AND the federal budget, NOT the president.
+1 Internets for no one responding to well thought out and logical arguments. Oh and for reading.
Who cares who caused the deficit! What matters is that it’s here and needs to be fixed. Stop the blame game and actually give me ways to solve the ecomonic crisis!!!!!!!!!!
I see your point. But its the Republican mouth-pieces that want to disregard the 1st Amendment by wanting to deny Muslims the full rights to gather and worship as they see fit. So, really, the Constitution is a document that is widely ignored by both parties at their convenience. It is also a document that most Americans don’t even know or understand. What would America look like if we actually paid attention to these things?
Uh, dude…no. This is completely absurd.
There’s not time for everything, but I must respond to some of the more moronic points you made:
(1) No one read the health care bill
The health care bill was about 1200 pages long. In terms of actual length – because of the all of the spacing and margins necessary for a bill – it was about 300 pages long, single-spaced. I seem to recall that we debated that thing for a bloody year. If you think 300 pages is too much to read in a year, well, you might be a Republican. Or someone who is overly reliant upon talking points as opposed to common sense.
(2) The ‘deadbeat’ canard
At the time of the bailout – which, incidentally, was in 2008, and was supported by the entire Republican leadership in the House and Senate and signed by GEORGE BUSH, not Barack Obama – the government could have bought every single bad mortgage in the nation for $330 billion dollars – less than half of the amount of the bailout package. So, tell me, how is it that you think the bad mortgages were the issue?
Bad mortgages were not the problem – Wall Street derivatives on the mortgage market was.
(By the way, your numbers on Fannie and Freddie are just flat-out wrong and bear no relation to reality. I mean, you must have gotten them from Glenn Beck or something, that’s how ridiculous they are.)
(3) Democrats spend like mad
Please, what a canard. Republicans called all the shots with regard to the budget from 2001-2007 and federal spending still went through the roof. The supposed fiscally-conservative Republicans also managed to decrease revenue collected during that time, leading to enormous budget deficits.
And, also, the surplus wasn’t forced on Clinton by Gingrich, et al – it was a product of Clinton’s tax increases on the wealthy in his 1993 budget act. Federal spending didn’t drop from 1995-2001 – Federal revenues increased.
(4) The wars vis-a-vis Obama’s budget
The wars, in the end, will cost $2 trillion. Obama’s budget deficit this year is projected to be $1.4 trillion – and that’s less than last year’s $1.6 trillion budget deficit, which, in case you aren’t aware, was approved under the Bush Administration. Not sure what else to tell you here other than that $1.4 trillion is less than $1.6 trillion and $2.0 trillion.
The ‘sad fact’ is that since 1981, the Dems have controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for a total of three budget years, and the year-to-year deficit has decreased for each of them.
Meanwhile, the Republicans have controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for a total of six budget years during that time, and the year-to-year deficit has increased for all six of them.
But, hey, don’t let the facts ruin your story.
Yeah, because it’s totally legit to compare several years of war spending with one year of Obama giveaways to the politically connected.
You sir, have just beat the crap out of everyone here. (line steal!) *applauds*
And yes, Obama is so bad that one of his years is worse than several years of war spending.
Sir, I believe you just beat the crap out of everyone here. *Not sarcasm*
Woops that was meant for Chicken’s comment, not Solon the idiot.
I hate Rush Limbaugh. I hate Sarah Palin. I hate Glenn Beck.
It’s just that I hate Keith Olbermann, Nancy “Botox” Pelosi, and Chris Matthews even more.
Tea Partiers are understandably upset, but a lose amalgam of desiring the government leave you alone doesn’t accomplish anything. An actual set of demands, universally accepted by a faction and represented by the most effective orator amongst the masses is the way to go. Sarah Palin couldn’t argue her way out of a paper bag. She may be hot and perky, but that’s all she has going for her.
Stupid as she is, it’s the other people, the Keith Olbermann’s and Nancy Pelosi’s of the world who want in every bodies business. California is ran the way Obama WISHES he could run the US, and we have a 20 billion dollar budget deficit and a 500 BILLION dollar pension obligation that’s unfunded.
I don’t go around screaming about my rights like Tea partiers. Like them though, I do wish I could just be left alone.
Wait, what’s the motivational poster say again? How’d this turn into a Fox News debate?
EPIC WIN.
I live in California, man. I know how you feel.
What’s funny is a few days ago in LA a group of janitors aligned with the powerful SEIU union felt they had the “right” to block traffic in their protest. They found out quickly that just because you say you have the right to do something doesn’t mean you won’t be shoved into a police cruiser in cuffs.
To think the bill of rights doesnt protect stupid behavior is to miss the point entirely. The freedom of speech especially was designed to protect people who say things people dont want to hear. Think about it for about 2 minutes and realize someone saying popular and accepted things would not need any protection because what he’s saying isnt controversial and wont have busybodies, worried parents, and otherwise ignorant people clamoring to shut them up. Bill hicks comes to mind. On the other hand people who have unpopular ideas need to be protected precisely because what they have to say is unpopular. Unpopular speech was what the first amendment was designed to protect.
actually, the freedom of speech has less to do with ignorant jerkoffs spouting their ill-formed opinions and more to do with free access to information. there is a reason it is linked with the freedom of press and religion — these are basic institutions of a town-based society. shopkeepers, citizens, and businessmen should be able to be well-informed about the decisions they make, and if they have access to this information they can make good choices.
how many good choices can you make when every argument is a whining match between partisans? that’s not information, that’s opinion.
and for all the amateur economists, and sophomoric history buffs, it’s really a crapshoot as to whether this congress or that congress, or this president or that president is to blame — the president has veto powers. blaming one party for the eventual outcome, also, is shortsighted and whiny — let’s look at how to fix the problem instead of creating theoreticals where the people we don’t like are the EXACT REASON why bad things happen.
BILL OF NIGHTS!
Is it just me, or did they actually write “Congrefs?”
-L- says:
August 29, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Congrefs?
Is it bad the first thing I notice is the typo?
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Travis says:
August 29, 2010 at 7:48 pm
I noticed that too, but I don’t think it’s a typo. I think the first S is just really long.
J2Rock says:
August 29, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Correct. That “f” is really an “s”
That is just the way that font works, not a typo.
vandalfan says:
August 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm
It’s the historical way of printing an additional “s”. This photo isn’t the actual Bill of Rights, anyway. Note, it’s dated March 4, 1789, and issued in New York. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms, for example, is listed in Article the Fourth. Article The Second, noted as Not Ratified, governs pay raises for the representatives, etc. I know because a copy is hanging next to me on my office wall.
So even the comments before yours were TL;DR, huh? ;D
…because VeryDemotivational.com is the most logical place for important political debates.
It’s true. Faux News told me.
@caggy: that wasn’t a reply to you… not sure why it nested it there…
The trouble is that people do not make the difference between “Being free to express one’s opinion” and “Saying whatever the hell one wants”.
You never need to be vulgar, hurtful or hateful in any way to express your opinion. This is especially true if you are part of the media where your comments are heard by millions of people and can have unforeseen consequences. With greaty power comes great responsibility.
SHUT UP YOU’RE WRONG ALL SPEECH IS GOOD YOU JACKASS I HOPE YOU HAVE BATTERY ACID SPILLED OVER YOUR EYES!!!!
(By the way, that was a joke. You are actually making a lot of sense here).
You absolutely have the right to’ say whatever the hell you want”, but just because you have the right to do so doesn’t mean its something you should do.
Oh Glenn Beck, you never run out of things to say.
Why does that say congrefs?
So you couldn’t read the post six posts above yours huh that was a response to the exact same question asked once before that already huh?
Read the comments.
Nobody knows all of the bill of rights, nobody knows the whole maga-carta. I only know the first few rights, only people hardcore into government knows ALL of that crap. The reason i dont care about politics is because i dont know about most of it (c+ in highschool if that helps) so i dont spew facts i dont understand.
Liberals. Just as annoying as trolls, but not as ballsy.
Conservitives. Just as annoying as Nazis, but not as ballsy.