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You have no idea how happy I am to hear you not shout “FIRST!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!”
is it sad that i immediately though of minecraft?
no ur just cool
Not really.
Really.
In leftard socialist America, the GOVERNMENT robs you and wastes your money on studying swamp mice and allowing the “non-working” populace to buy beer with foodstamps
Wow, Americans really have no concept of “socialism.” Take their buzzwords away!
Win! I think I love you wowzers.
I think I love you, too Wowzers; and I am an American.
I’m so sick of rush, Hannity, and Beck doing all the thinking for so many when they just read the CEO propaganda.
May if the progressives would do the research FOR THEMSELVES instead of letting the “current administration spoon feed them, they might awaken as has middle America
Maybe if you correctly punctuate your retort it might be taken seriously.
Your powers of articulation are astounding.
I am pretty sure middle america is the major voting body for the progressives.
Thank you wowzers!
God I love living in the most powerful country in the world
didn’t realize craig was a chinese name….
Are you butthurt?
Well, f**k you!
You have an EBT card, I am sure of it.
I love it when people feel entitled for other peoples money rather than being grateful they have a safety net they probably dont deserve.
This is why as soon as I finish grad school I’m moving to Europe. There I’ll only need to put in half the lab hours I would here; all my hard-earned money won’t be taken from me so some miscreant can smoke weed.
You don’t know what Europe is, do you ?
Lol
how do people get you hard earned money to smoke weed if they get it on cards? you can’t buy weed with a card in most states. nd weeds the least of your problems, theres more of it in europe. ps i hate you
Me too! Grad school, and a first class ticket to Colombia…ahhh paradise!
I like to do charity AS I CHOOSE not as the government dictates(except for the mandated medicare/etc). I work for it I keep it.
Well, here in Sweden we prefer looking out for our fellow citizens in ways which aren’t always comfortable for ourselves.
As we don’t live in a just world things can happen to the most upstanding citizen and it’s important that people contribute to not JUST what they’d think is suitable, lending part of their taxes to people with expertise.
Through collective input, voting and checking systems for flaws we continually work at making our taxation more efficient. It’s not a perfect system, but it’s a lot better than most, oh and please tell your government to stop trying to influence our politics and laws regarding privacy, cheers and enjoy your evening.
i wouldn’t mind living in Sweden…
It is also your responsibility to give back to the society.
…until they break down
like they TOTALLY are doing in the US right now
Lol, if you only knew…
Yes because all people who are on welfare are useless, trouble making, drug users you ignorant jack-ass
I love it when the wealthy are unwilling to accept their social and economic responsibility and give back to the society that allowed them to attain their wealth and status. As for the people you say don’t deserve a safety net, did you ever consider that the education system in this country is so broken that the working class kids have to work way harder than the kids from better off families. At the same time these kids are surrounded by an atmosphere that tells them they will never amount to anything. That is a great motivation for academic indifference. If and when they start caring it is to late to repair the damage. However if we adopted an education system like the Germans people of all classes would be able to get a good education. That way deserving people i.e. people with intellect not just people with money would have decent opportunities.
My point is that your idea of a person being able to pull them-selfs up by their boot straps if they work hard enough doesn’t work when put into practice. Many people who deserve wealth can’t attain it and many people who don’t deserve wealth are born into it. And that people with money should be giving back to the people that grow their food and build their homes.
You hear that?
That is the sound of a unicorn dying from YOUR sheer stupidity.
Stop the stupid. Save a unicorn.
THINK.
Apparently Uncle Rush never told shimauma that EBT cards don’t work for beer or other alcoholic beverages. The card simply will not pay for that. Way to drink the kool aid without checking facts.
People exchange them by trading groceries for the money. The exchange rate is about 2 to 1. Think before you speak next time.
Obviously Aunt Pelosi didnt tell you that there are ways of playing the system. I’m in the marketing business and I see alot of people with money and food stamps. What makes it even funnier is I have an old flip phone while most of them have Blackberries, Droids, etc.
you can’t buy anything but uncooked food with foodstamps. Hence the name foodstamps. Not beer stamps, or cigarette stamps. You’re a complete idiot. Kill yourself.
While true that foodstamps only pay for food, wouldn’t that mean that the people getting them have some money that would normally be for food left for something else? If you’re in a position where you are getting foodstamps, it’d make since that you’d need to pay for something vital. Then again, if you’re in a position where you need foodstamps, there’s a decent chance you don’t make the best decisions.
It’s human nature to be reluctant to give up luxuries (see: Beer companies do fine in recessions), and so, in an indirect way foodstamps can be used for beer.
In my opinion, it would make plenty of since for a charity to do the same work the government does in this case. They’d likely be able to do a better job, as volunteers would be more willing to make sure the people receiving the foodstamps aren’t spending money frivolously.
Just my 2 cents, kinda bored
Might as well fight on the internet
Your argument would be stronger if you could differentiate between “since” and “sense” Just my 2¢.
I’m sure you and your finite intelligence can deduce which one he/she meant. You can keep your 2 cents, save up for some fresh underwear.
Your mama doesn’t like it when I wear underwear. So I’ll use my extra 2¢ as a tip next time I bang her.
you can’t buy beer with foodstamps. They fixed that about 3 years ago. nice try though.
You can’t buy beer on foodstamps, I had them in college and I’m sure I would have tried if I could have. You can’t even buy energy drinks with them.
actually, red bull is purchaseable with foodstamps.
can’t buy beer with food stamps dude
AMEN.
I have a question, looking for answers.
If I rob people blind, then afterwards tell them I’m not, will I receive a rabid following of disagreeable people? Without doing one shred of good for mankind of course!
Because that would be wonderful!
You just hit bull’s eye!
I hereby give you one hundred Internets and you, sir, deserve them all.
What you said ^^
agreeeeee! this is absolutely brilliant! thank you for bringing this into my life
The bank took all my internets…
All my internets are belong to you. This is definitely one of my favourites.
just a <3!
That’s funny. (I Guess, right?)
More like the government robs you
Both. After all, they’re one and the same.
I’d like to say that Fox News is calling – they want you to cut through the bullsh*t and tell it like it is – but…well, they’re not. They SHOULD, but they’re not.
Soup for the WIN!
^Tru dat^
At least with the banks you have to choose to give them your money… with the government they just pass a law and take your money, then they give it to their banking buddies and get rid of your right to choose.
well, actualy, u just choose which bank to give money
Do you hear that?
That is the sound of a unicorn dying…and why…?
Because you’re STUPID.
Why American’s don’t see this I don’t know; but what I DO know is this: GOVERNMENT IS NOT IT’S OWN ENTITY.
Shock upon shocks, horror upon horrors! It can’t be true!!
Oh, but wait! It is. And it gets better.
Government only exists (ONLY) because we, as humans, feel the need to work together under a social contract (i.e. “law”) to work towards a collective goal (i.e. “guaranteed peace” or “an end to avoidable hunger/disease/conflict/etc.”) that we, as individuals, couldn’t achieve alone. This means that there is no government that exists without some degree of consent from the people it governs.
So what does this mean?
It means that if you don’t like what the government is doing, then you don’t have to give consent – in other words, YOU CAN REBEL. THE GOVERNMENT CAN’T MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING YOU DON’T WANT TO DO. IF THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO TAKE YOUR MONEY, YOU CAN REFUSE. IS THE ALL-CAPS GETTING THROUGH TO YOU!!??!!
For full details, see John Locke’s “Second Treatise.”
AND Jean Jaque Rousseau’s “The Social Contract.”
‘IS THE ALL CAPS GETTING THROUGH TO YOU?’ oh man that is so awesome, i have to use that sometime.
Too long. Didn’t read.
You’re a f**king moron. Try not giving consent, and rebelling. I don’t feel like paying taxes, so I’ll just not pay taxes. I’ll also just quit following what i believe are unjust laws.
I know someone who thought smoking weed shouldn’t be illegal, so he said he won’t follow some stupid unjust law. He’s in jail now. You’re stupid.
You are right though about one thing, government doesn’t exist without some degree of consent; unfortunately, that degree of consent doesn’t have to be large. Just large enough for a representative republic to get started.
Here’s a tip for you(hopefully it will land you in a place where you can no longer provide misinformation to the masses via the internet): quit paying taxes for a year. When the government comes to collect from you, be set up like a rebel. Have your place boarded up, and if the come in say your rebelling against the government and refusing to consent to unfair taxation. Fight.
With any luck(for me), they will throw you in prison and teach you your lesson.
I honestly can’t tell which party is dumber any more.
I think that what Mahalo was trying to say was that as we live in a society of millions there are laws we live by as a rule. We are then given a choice, support these laws or at least accept them, voice your opinion and vote against the laws in the next election because WE DO LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, leave, or reject the laws and face the consequences. Only an idiot would belive That you could not pay your taxes with no consequences but you physically don’t have to do anything. That is what I got out of that comment anyway. For what it is worth.
Yeah, if only the votes actually mattered anymore.
Certainty? In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
While i agree wholeheartedly that a big part of the blame lays with the populace that allows its government to do as it pleases, it also like a much more sinister mob contract. Do as they say or you’ll be imprisoned/raped/killed. We in america are born into allegiance to a governmental system we often don’t understand until our 20′s, and by then if we refuse, we are eligible for death. We could rebel, and we would be slaughtered by a combination of superior technology and brainwashed citizens. Too many people are happily drinking the kool-aid for a succesful rebellion to occur.
OR maybe a successful rebellion won’t occur because everything you just said is crazy.
Tell that to North Korea or China. If you dont like the government, you do….nothing because you could wake up dead one morning, oh and for all those ignorant lefties out there you think any other news organization besides Fox out there tells the whole truth? Get real.
Fox News tells the truth? No they don’t, they spin things from a right-wing perspective, whereas some other news organisations tell things from a liberal or left-wing perspective.
News organisations don’t really tell the truth, they’re businesses selling a product, and like most businesses trying to sell a product they tell half-truths. The amount of tricks involved in journalism these days is actually astonishing, you’d be amazed at how easy it is to change an entire story based on the emittance of certain words.
And how do you ‘wake up dead’ one morning? If you’re dead you don’t wake up. Idiot.
actually, you really can’t. let’s use taxes as an example: if you refuse to pay taxes, like you said we can, the government (more specifically, the IRS) comes after us. basically, there are restrictions and guidelines we all have to follow if we want to be citizens of the U.S. of A.
Did you choose to pay for that bailout?
boom, headshot. Well put.
Because it is completely unfair if a CEO of an Investment Bank can’t buy another sports car just so that a kid from a working class family doesn’t have to off and put their life on the line defending a country that has failed them and their family just so they can get a good education.
This may be my favourite demotivational poster ever.
well, actually if considering this as the opposite from soviet russia, i guess there should be ‘in democratic america’, as capitalistic is the opposit of communist
“Soviet” it’s not a political model, it’s the name of the union that it was Russia on the cold war
“Soviet” is not a name. It’s a word with a meaning. Look it up, you’ll learn something.
In matter of a fact, word “soviet” literally means council. In 1917 when revolution began, all factories were overtaken by councils of workers. Since then the word “soviet” had been used to show, that country is ruled by simple workers.
The term is ‘in soviet russia’ and he used the term communist at the end. Read whole posts before commenting your half ass arguments.
A soviet is a worker’s cooperative. They’re about as democratic as you can get.
Then why did the leaders of the Soviet Union lock up and murder millions of their own people while under the name Soviet? How democratic can you be to lock up your own people to set an example to the rest of them. You basically say “If you disobey, this will happen to you.” I fail to see the democracy here.
Because the Soviet Union was a Broken idea at that point.
You can call an apple a mosquito, that doesn’t make it one. Lenin coopted “communism” and soviets for his own gain. He was a state capitalist who even publicly stated that he never intended on shifting to communism. A soviet, aka syndicate or worker’s cooperative is a business that is democratically run by the workers. That’s all it means.
In the textbook it might be the opposites.
In reality, they/we actually did/do the same.
In short: transfering wealth from the already poor to the already rich ones.
Just like in the good ol times some milennia ago.
Well done!
Funny as hell and truthful. Right on the money (no pun intended).
+5,000 Internetz for you my good man.
Awesome.
It’s precious that you people actually believe this. Just precious.
Exactly.
And that´s because you don´t think it´s true???
It’s precious that you are a condescending jerk-off.
Explain then, precious, how it’s not true.
Your words, no cut and paste BS.
When a bank charges me a $30 overdraft fee for each little $2 transaction (my fault for not being careful with my money, but read on, I’m going somewhere with this) but would charge me only once for a $100 transaction that puts me in the red, I can’t help but agree with the poster.
I’m not against overdraft fees, but they could at least make them a bit more fair.
And don’t forget that many banks also charge overdraft fees on their overdraft fees. It’s the magic way to turn a metaphoric $14 boo-boo into a $320 sucking chest wound overnight.
Oh, they are full of the shenanigans, they are…
¡¡¡Give this man a medal!!! This poster is pure WIN
How did nobody think of this before? Over 9000 internets for you.
That… was… brilliant.
Wow. You’ve single handaedly counterblanced all the annoying memes out there. all of them. That was freaking glorious.
We have also decided this to be the case in Austraila. Now the only issue is how do you challenge the Masters of the Universe?
Ah…that should have been ..Australia.
Which bank?
They’re all bastards! [Just thought I finish that for all us Australians out there:D]
And, yes, nostomo – let’s hear it for another rates rise that the banks added upon!
I dont understand how a bank can record their biggest ever profit…what was it 6 billion or something?…then, with a straight face, announce that they ‘have’ to raise their charges because their ‘margins are under stress’. Seriously we need a shake up in banking…they are robbing us all blind and have been since the day our salaries and wages started getting paid directly into our bank accounts rather than by cash.
What it comes down to is that it’s impossible to get hold of your own money without some of it getting stuck to their little fingers along the way.
Thats because instead of using their income to support themselves as a corporation should, they instead decide to give much needed money to shareholders.
Smart huh?
Nope….that’s because they have absolutely no compunction whatsoever when it comes to gouging us all for every single penny they possibly can…smart huh?
“Maximising profit for our shareholders’is the mantra they recite while they’re doing it, to be sure, but at what point is the profit enough? ….never…
In Australia whinging about successful people is more important than rampant, unregulated capitalism.
You’re allowed to be successful here but you’re not allowed to be too successful. Banks are considered to be too successful by Australians therefore they must be evil and government must stop the banks from taking money away from people.
On one hand the good thing about all this whinging is we have good regulations in the finance industry that prevent silly ideas like America’s subprime bullsh*t from occurring or even damaging us very badly, on the other hand it gets very tiresome listening to morons like nostromo whine and moan about how mean his bank is when he does nothing to change it nor does the idiot buy shares.
You are the idiot buddy..not realising when your pockets are being picked. Also I would say very poorly raised as a child to abuse strangers without knowing anything about them.
The banks started ripping us all off the day we all stopped being paid in cash. Think about that if you have any brain cells left snapping..we have to retrieve OUR money from them before we can do anything at all with it. Our cash sits in zero interest-paying so-called ‘savings’accounts while the banks lend it to others at a huge profit. BTW I have bank shares..I am one of those weirdos who still objectc to injustice even though I am not personally very badly affected by it.
P.S. Kiss my arse.
That’s them! LOL
In neo-mercantilist state-corporatist America
Banking cartel run by the Fed rob you.
…But not as catchy.
Also, remember, the Fed is a private bank. As capitalist as they come.
In Singapore….. Road robs you…..
Guy’s whoever wrote this stole it from The rock paper cynic guy. He did this whole In capitalist America, Joke week a few months ago.
http://www.rockpapercynic.com
Let’s see…. A bank is where you can sign up for a loan and have to follow the conditions. If you do not voluntarily sign the documents, you do not get the loan; if you do, you must follow the terms and conditions of the loan.
If the loan is a bad one – that is, it grossly favors the bank – don’t take the loan. If you do anyway, well, tough; no one made you take the loan.
If, however, this particular demotivational poster is referring to the banking bailouts that have occurred, well, would you call those who are on welfare thieves? What about medicare? Or any other government program? They took money that was offered; if anyone is a thief, it is government.
And if the banks are indeed the government, then, well, they are no longer banks; they are just bureaucrats and politicians pretending. Banks require consent of the loaners and loanees to get investments and give loans; government just needs people to fleece.
tl;dr
I really think that tl;dr sh*t is so ignorant, no wonder this country just elected a bunch of corporate backed a$$holes.
Yes its true you decide to take the loan, but banks can decide to change thier terms at any moments notice, and makie it so not accepting thier terms is a worse option.
Contrary to whatever the communists have told you, theft is not a part of capitalism. Capitalism requires a free market, and a free market does not exist where coercion is involved – that is, theft.
With communism, however, you pretty much CAN’T operate without theft – that is, taking the product of an innocent person’s labor by force.
Oh, but it’s a bank, so it MUST be an EVIL FAT CAT CAPITALIST!!!1!
…Except it’s the government taking your money and giving it to them. A very socialist, very anti-free-market, anti-capitalist, government.
Erm, no. free market means that you can legally buy and sell EVERYTHING. Including a person’s labour. For any price. look at Britain during the Industrial Reovolution to know what the Free Market truly is.
Sadly, one of the few people that get it here.
When the government sets you on fire, don’t thank them because they put out after letting you burn a bit. That’s essentially what the bank bailout was.
In socialist America, Obama robs you!
Yeah! And he gives you free healtcare at the same time.. What a loser!
And he wants to cut the atrociously over-sized Military budget and put it to something useful! The nerve!
Don’t act like a TARD nothing is “free”
Sorry, it’s not ‘free’ healthcare is nationalized healthcare, as in we pay for it in our taxes so those who couldn’t afford it, like hobos, get their surgeries.
You’re totally right. We should be more selfish and let the poor die cause they can’t afford medical care.
Contrary to popular belief, the poor are not helpless people to be pitied, they are people who made bad choices in life and ended up there. Some of them were screwed, some of them are war vets, but that’s a very small portion.
And to Bhazor below, it’s not about how much we spend it’s who we’re spending it on. It sounds dumb, i know, but i’ll pay 100 dollars for my visits, i don’t want to pay 70 dollars for someone who doesn’t deserve it.
So because someone made a few bad choices they don’t deserve the live. mmkay.
So because some people are helpless and deserve help, we should cater to all the people who don’t deserve it that vastly outnumber the unfortunate ones.
I live in a poor household. My Dad works in construction and my Mom is a surgical tech. (She helps Surgeons in the O.R.). Without the working class the upper class wouldn’t have homes, roads, manufactured goods, or anything else you take for granted. We are the foundation of this country. Do not under estimate us.
The majority of the poor get free medical care anyway all they have to do is go through the ER like people at my hospital do.
Oh, so it’s ok if the poor die, as long as the majority of them don’t.
They may go into the ER for treatment in an emergency, but if they are diagnosed with a long term life threatening illness they are left to die and in my personal opinion that is wrong.
Yes.
In fact you’d be paying considerably less than now.
Oh yes.. Capitalism is evil and only Satan promotes it.
Of course, We oughta make sure our hard earned money isn’t going waste on educating the aforementioned hobos’ kids either.
And don’t you hate that your hard-earned money is being used via taxes, on utilities you personally won’t even use? Stadiums you might not visit, roads you might not drive over, etc
And we need to make sure our money isn’t being handed out as unemployment or welfare for the handicapped. I mean.. there’s always some work they can do, right? Write scam emails, start banks or run seedy joints.. Cause that’s the beauty of Amerikan Capitalism, right?
Meh, I blame banks giving loans out to idiots that will never be able to pay back the loan.
don’t forget the leftard government MADE regulations to MAKE the banks give loans to idiots that will never pay back the money, then the leftard government used taxpayer money to back the loans. Wonder what happens when the leftard government runs out of taxpayers?
Yeah, and they also required that these loans be toxic pieces of sh*t that were designed to rob you of your house as well! Oh wait, that was the banks. You fail sir!
You’ll s**t your dipers & write more propaganda ?
Good god you’re a f**ing moron.
it’s the deregulation by the rightwingers that enabled this to happen, along with people trying to get things they couldn’t afford.
Your ridiculous post=EPIC FAIL
Fail…MASSIVE FAIL.
If you actually knew what is was you speak of, instead of just goin off on a ridiculous rant about “leftard this and leftard that”….you’d know that it was in fact the conservatives who deregulated the banking industry, ALONG with people who wanted more than they could afford.
actually if you would do you your home work you would find that Carter was the one who implimented the Community Revisement Act that pressured banks to give loans to people that could not afford them… then Bill Clinton deregulated banking industry further… then in the middle of the Bush term republicans tried to ad regulations and oversight of Fanny and Freddie only to be shoot down by Democrats… 4 years later, crash… “we should have been overseeing these evil bankers”…
Got to love the Randroids and other nutters who exclusively buy into the notion that the economic collapse can be pinned solely on the Community Reinvestment Act. I will blame Clinton for signing the bills that de-regulated the bank industry but the main bill that paved the way was drafted, sponsored and primarily approved of by Republicans…the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act of 1996 which eroded the separation between investment and depository banks and allowed the two to gamble our money on bizarre theoretical financial constructs like “derivatives”…. if you seriously think that Republicans would ever seek to reign in or regulate any industry, let alone the banking/financial industry, i would really like a couple of hits off of whatever it is you have been smoking because you are apparently having some awesome delusions.
I’d like whatever Senator Barney Frank was high on when he told us that there was no need to regulate his pet projects Fannie and Freddie, despite their heavy investment in these “bizarre theoretical financial constructs,” because everything was just fine.
Do you have any of that?
If that is the case he should get a boot up the ass along with every other guilty party, but again, let us not try to lay the entire economic collapse on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac because while they were contributory, their role in the collapse was comparatively small and it’s a cute blame-shift by the folks who decided that replacing the Glass-Steagall act of 1937 with something the bankers thought would be more fun was a good idea
No. What actually happened was the ‘Leftard government’ removed regulation that prevented banks from giving bad loans. The banks gave the loans with the intension of selling them up the food chain to make a fast relatively low risk profit.
I came so close to LOL-ing… In the middle of my professor’s lecture.
I cannot thumb this up enough. I would give the genius behind this poster internetz, but the bank took my entire stock.
There are plenty of other countries to live in. Move there and enjoy.
Not really since the US banking industry caused a worldwide recession that many countries are still suffering from.
I would, but I can’t afford to. Wanna hook me up with a plane ticket?
Make that two; bundle and save! =D
Only if you’re stupid enough to take out to many loans….which is most of the people in the country
Yeah! Thats Right!
Stupid people buying mortgages and then being made redundant because the company can’t get any capital because the banks are frozen solid. Serves them right I say.
Uh, no. Once you grow up and take out a loan on a house, maybe a mortgage and maybe even refinance after that (after the housing market crashes from greed) you will discover the de-regulated banking industry. Under all those small loans lies numerous algorithms created to stir confusion to anyone trying to live the American dream. It’s sad to see so many people side with the corporate giants in America just because their buddies talk about the “freeloaders” in this country. Sad indeed =(
That’s not Capitalism stupid asses.
Yes America is capitalist, one of if not the most commercial places in the world.
Banks and Money are the fundamental aspects of capitalism
You are retarded
What’s not capitalism? haha? Maybe you should at least attempt some sort of articulation in your sentences before insulting others intelligence? Yeah?
who are the fu_cking idiots who voted this down?? probably the bankers/investors
True. How the average American citizen can actually stand up and defend capitalism and the American banking system…just well….baffles me.
Can I rob people blind, tell them I’m not and receive a rabid following? What the f**k am I working for?
Wow. Doesn’t take a lot to impress some people. I mean, after all, you *choose* to put your money in a bank. Yet when the US government robs us blind and spends money like a drunken Arab oil tycoon, the same people who thumb this up would thumb down one pointed at socialism.
Yep. Pretty much the reason the US is dying. Rob us blind, but love them for it as long as they spout cliches and platitudes you agree with. Mindless sheep, all y’alls.
Well played, Sir. Well played
Stop blaming capitalism for socialist failures: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=41491064600
Also the American Flag somehow reminds me of Waldo and especially how he finds you in Soviet Russia.
Not accurate at all.
The banks didn’t rob us. The government robbed us and bought bank shares with our money, and they acquired those banks. That’s state interventionism and state ownership of enterprise… that’s the exact opposite of free-market capitalism.
If the US was actually practicing capitalism then those banks would have been allowed to collapse.
Not accurate at all.
The banks didn’t rob us. The government robbed us and bought bank shares with our money, and they acquired those banks. That’s state interventionism and state ownership of enterprise… that’s the exact opposite of free-market capitalism.
If the US was actually practicing capitalism then those banks would have been allowed to collapse.
That’s not entirely accurate either.
The banks did in fact rob us, before everything else you mentioned.
We get screwed either way.
Basically, it’s the ol’ “Privatize the profits, socialize the losses” scenario”
The government bailed out the banks because it would have caused far more damages otherwise. To do so is it’s job, and we as citizens in return for the security it gives us, pay taxes.
So no, the government didn’t rob us. If we would dumbly define capitalism as the free market, and socialism as the government’s influence, then it did do something socialist, and that saved us from harm.
The job of the banks is to accept our money, use it to invest, and give us part of the profits in return (and also to give us our money back if we ask to). They, by free market capitalism, formed an insolvable mess of packages and funds, causing the system to collapse due to an inability to recognize bad investments. In order to save the banks, and thus save all of our money, the government had to prevent this.
So no, the banks did ‘rob’ us, by making us dependent on them and then moving so irresponsibly that they needed our money to save themselves, with the only alternative being us becoming a lot poorer.
This behavior by the banks was purely capitalist. No state intervention occurred while the banks were doing this. Capitalism screwed us over.
So while indeed the government intervening was an act of socialism (which, really, any thing the government does is), it was the socialism which made the crisis far less worse, and it was the capitalism which got us into this mess. Therefore, “capitalist America” was the environment in which the bailout was required. The bailout, being a necessity due to our dependence on them, was because of their irresponsible behavior akin to theft. For the sake of simplicity and for comedic effect, one may indeed call it banks robbing you.
Therefore, it was “in capitalist America” where the “banks robbed us”. In other words, “In capitalist America, (the) bank(s) rob you!”
QED the sentence is correct.
You of course left out all the socialist policies of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Chuck Schumer who regulated banking industries, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and introduced policies that allowed banks to lend money to people who would never pay it back.
The Republican side chose to look away and accept Wall Street bribes and allowed banks to lend money without any regulation. The fact remains that everything the banks did is so far from being capitalist that this demotivational poster only finds favor with those predisposed to be against capitalism (while living and thriving and benefiting in a society built by it).
The Government mandated policies that destroyed the banking sector. Then they had to print money to boost the banking sector. Just because the government put out a fire doesn’t mean we should be grateful they burnt the house down to begin with.
All i cna say is, canada a has one of the most regulated banking systems is a free market economy, and weve been hit the least by the recession.
its not socialisms fault, it was just stupid socialist policies.
Philip!
FTW!
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
The government caused the credit crisis. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are controlled by the government, they are the ones that insured and invested in the Mortgage-backed securities that had the bad loans in them. Why? Because the Democrats, who control both Freddie and Fannie, used these two organizations to support mortgages for the purpose of allowing poor minorities, specifically urban blacks, to own homes they wouldn’t otherwise afford.
The banks participated in a scheme that the government orchestrated. They were just following the agenda set way back when Clinton was president when he based the Urban Housing and Development act… you know, the law that requires banks to give loans to people that can’t afford them.
It’s amazing how much the issue is distorted and how the media ignores the government’s role. None of this would ever have happened if Freddie and Fannie were put in check, like Republicans have tried to do hundreds of times, every time being opposed by Democrats who say it’s “racist”, because Freddie and Fannie almost destroyed our economy just so Democrats could get votes from black people.
Great one!
Well, it’s SUPPOSED to be capitalist, but the robbing part sounds a little socialist…
‘merica ain’t cap’talist anymoar.
Oh, btw, the picture should be the Federal Reserve Bank. If anyone robs you, it’s them.
Aw look, someone who doesn’t know what capitalism is.
Very demotivationa, because it is truth
Wow. Some people are so easy to please. If it were true capitalism, the government would have NEVER taken money from us (or printed trillions more) to pay for bad (and government dictated) business practices. So, in reality, the NON capitalist banks have robbed us.
Just throwing a bone to people with predisposed, anti-capitalist feelings. Not brilliant really…
The BAD business practices were allowed by Capitalism, which if not intervened with by the government (which you’re right, wasn’t Capitalism), would have made everything even worse off.
But since Capitalism allowed this mess in the first place, the Demotivational poster is correct and you are wrong.
So, the government shoots you, but since they took you to the doctor and paid for it, we’re in their debt?
The Federal Reserve basically controls the US Banking system. They lifted regulations that let the bank lend billions to poor people. They started the mess. The banks tried to capitalize on it, but it was a tremendous failure. The US government “solved” the problem by printing trillions to teach these irresponsible banks a lesson.
Not saying it’s a perfect system, but I’d rather a voluntary business conglomerate with an interest to make money have it than a federal government predisposed to set trillions on fire without so much as a blink.
I like this one.
Ok, who else had the “Patton” theme going thru their head?
*Applause* this was a very good one, the best ‘in [political standing] [country], [proposition"2"] [verb] [proposition"1"]‘ joke I’ve seen in a while.
I thought of it before I saw it here…
/sadface
i SWEAR, I made this joke not one hour ago, and didnt see this ’til now… whoa…
In Corporate America, money owns you.
Win.
“You have so much money, we’re going to take money from this guy’s account and give it to you!”
True story.
In Socialist America, Government robs your money and gives it to illegals!
Bailing out the banks worked about as well as Obama’s stimulus package. Obama boasted it would create jobs, and we’d dip no lower than 8% unemployment. Pbhtbhthb.
And now we find the Federal Reserve is going to print another 600 billion dollars to loan to banks and keep interest rates lower. Yeah… the banks, not the Fed are responsible for out of control debt and a collapsing economy. It’s all Capitalisms fault, not greedy, corrupt bastard Democrats and Republican whores.
So exactly what flavor is the Randroid koolaid? Most of your arguments up and down this thread in defense of pure capitalism would have me believe that you are of the same delusional stripe as most of the pseudo-libertarians who seem to think that America needs to revert to the way things were during the 1890′s or before any of the major reforms when the various industry barons pretty much owned the government and the path to power along with it.
If the “socialism” that the alleged libertarians and the right-wingers keep hyperventilating about means America never having to relive the gross, social-darwinist hell that was the Gilded Age (and if you weren’t rich it really wasn’t all that Gilded), I’ll take it every time.
People who constantly bring up this 2% difference in the current rate of unemployment from the 8% estimate just amaze me. You really need to understand that the 8% unemployment rate was only *projection* of what could happen and not (I repeat, NOT) a definite psychic prediction. That is all. Thank you.
What amazes me is some can forgive all the mistakes Bush made but Obama so much as stutters during a speech then they refuse to let it go.
Well, it’s worked pretty damn well for the last century or so…until Obama started F*ing system up in order to make Marxist principles more plausible and appealing. We all see how well that’s worked out for Europe, lol.
that’s strange…I have a rhter great life here in Europe. And that in the country that possibly has the highes tax in the world. Not sure. I just know I have a good life, and i can thank our goverment for that.
As I like to say, those in Europe probably pay far less in monthly taxes than Americans do on Insurance in a year.
To be fair it’s only a handful of European countries that are suffering due to too much government spending. And by excessive government spending I mean paying for a government funded nanny service so mothers could return to work, or free laundry services etc. Most of which was unfunded by tax income and funded instead by betting on the American stock market (which you d**kheads f**ked up) and various currency markets.
In the end the important thing to note is that in spite of all Europe’s current woes, this current crisis will have very little impact on the overall quality of life of an average person who is born in France today. They will still die 10 to 20 years after an average person born in the US today and will enjoy better healthcare, lower unemployment, a better diet, lower stress levels and a government that works for its citizens instead of the other way around like the US system.
There are a few exceptions to this rule, rich Americans will live longer than poor African immigrants in France will, but like for like (wealth compared to equal wealth) France is a far better country to live in today than the US will ever be, unless it’s pig-headed citizens finally learn that they’re not perfect and that their country is very, very broken.
Have you ever heard of the Great Depression? Because the system really helped us out then.
Although I disagree with the views propagated by this poster (look at my name), I still find it to be very clever.
Such a big comment section, yet so boring to troll. No one really made any blatantly outrageous arguments, no one really acted like a complete douche, it was just plain not fun. I weep for our new intelligent internets.
I’m not one who usually comments on these sorts of things but at this time, I do feel compelled to do so. I just want to say, that this is an awful lot of random, off-on-a-tangent comments for a really funny picture parodying “In Soviet Russia” jokes.
Yay! Thanks to politicians, mass media, pop culture and other idiots, hardly any one understands what Capitalism and Socialism actually means. And most of these people probably have never heard of Corporatism (for those who are curious, it is closer in relation to Socialism than it is Capitalism).
Ignorance is not bliss.
I love how most of the people commenting have no idea that this is a Family Guy reference.
A hilarious one at that.
608 people are republicans.
I don’t remember a family guy reference to banks robbing you.
Kind of reminds me of the south park episode, Bailout!
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/222638/bailout
Sadly that is the closest thign to ‘right’ I’ve heard for our financial system, lol.
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I am demotivated; sir.
Nice fail. That’s not a bank, it’s the NYSE. Nice try though.