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  1. Jake says:

    It’s too bad it wasn’t passed. I guess Californians aren’t as cool as people make them out to be.

  2. John Doe says:

    So that’s why the prop didn’t pass. The potheads didn’t check the box correctly…

  3. Roach says:

    and a valuable vote wasted

  4. ToLongDidNotRead says:

    nope….it’s totally right….(considering he/she was probobly stoned when voting for that)

    • ToLongDidNotRead says:

      pardon my grammar

    • Anonyminous says:

      Well, if that’s the way you act when you’re stoned, I can kind of understand why you’d think that… Of course, it’s the people that function as if they’re semi-retarded while stoned that give us perfectly coherent and functional stoners a bad name.

      • Pols Voice says:

        Who the hell wants to be perfectly coherent and functional when stoned? What’s the point in getting stoned if you’re not totally messed up?

  5. Steve Jobs says:

    and that’s why didn’t pass

  6. grrrr says:

    Why do idiots always have to ruin good things for everyone else?

  7. PCstratos says:

    Because smoking marijuana and doing drugs is so cool!

    • FubarFTW says:

      Noone’s saying it’s cool. The point is that marijuana can be helpful in certain situations. It has some negative effects but it also has positive ones. It’d be hard as hell to tax and control distribution, but it would probably have a more positive impact on society than a negative one. It’s all about responsibility.

      • Madcapfeline says:

        And given the sheer number of DUI’s and DUI related fatalities in this country, I think personal responsibility may be a little too much to hope for. Just sayin’.

        • Thalia says:

          People use marijuana anyway, so we might as well make it legal. That way we could regulate it, tax it, and educate people about it.

          I don’t know if I’ll ever use marijuana or not, but I’m commited to not using it until after I graduate college, because I know that it interferes with memory and learning.

          • Klara says:

            That’s not really an argument now is it, people use all kinds of drugs so should we legalize them all?

            • Daniel says:

              Well, marijuana is less dangerous than alchol so should we ban it too?
              Do you know why marijuana is illegal?
              Not because it is dangerous (see alchool, cigarettes), but because canapa can be use for a lot of things, see Ford’s car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBVwyQra4hk, or even petroleum, but obviusly the powerfoul petrolists don’t want that, they would loose the monopoly over a huge part of the economy.
              Too many influencing people don’t want marijuuana to be legalized, because it would harm their buisness.
              I’m gonna stop here, I could go on way more, but I am too stoned, and I see no red dragons…

              Anyway, my english sucks not because I’m stoned, because it’s my third language, if you were thinking about it…

              • Klara says:

                Not at all, my english isn’t that great either (not my official language).

                And I do believe it’s dangerous, it might be less dangerous then alcohol and cigarettes, but it’s still dangerous (I think). The fact that canapa doesn’t get used doesn’t change my views on the usage of marijuana as a drug in any way, and I don’t see why it should.

                Should we ban alchol? Possibly, it could be best for future generations. But I don’t know if I’d actually vote yes on banning alcohol, simply because I already like the taste.

                But the real question is: If alcohol was illegal and I had never tried it but simply got a description whould I want it to get legalized? And the answer would be no.

                • helfalump says:

                  Umm, banning of alcohol already happened, and we learned from that mistake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition

                • Krazeecain says:

                  A major reason to legalize marijuana is to stop gangsters from profiting from it. Look up prohibition in the states to see a perfect example. Also, in terms of direct physical damage, marijuana is completely harmless, and unlike alcohol or tobacco, marijuana holds some very real health benefits. Daniel is absolutely right, the reason is isn’t legal right now is because SO many powerful industries don’t want it legalized, such as oil, pharmaceutical, paper and food (mostly because of biofuel). Marijuana is an amazing plant, capable of revolutionizing many industries. If you’re looking for an example of why the world we live in is so rotten, the marijuana situation is about as good as you’re going to get.

                  Also, I just want to clarify that I don’t smoke weed, tobacco, or drink. I just found the plant to be very interesting, and did my research.

                  • JGH says:

                    “Completely harmless”?

                    I call bulls**t on that one. Neurological impact is a direct physical damage. Bong use for that matter increases toxin intake. Toxins make a direct physical impact. After all, there is no such thing as ‘mental illness’ without a physical, neurological impact. Memory loss, schizophrenia etc etc. these are all sourced to impact on the very physical brain.

                    To permit by safety is never a good idea. Nothing is completely safe. However, being the logical beings we are with foresight, we can judge our own tolerance. If people know their limits and stop becoming dependent on drugs like alcohol and cannabis and take responsibility, I think we can accept the legalisation on the grounds of common sense of use, rather than human rights to do as we wish. Also, if we can remove the stigma, it’ll become a lot less shameful to find help in addiction recovery.

                    Maybe the Biblical tenet “The stomach was made for food, and food for the stomach, but not everything is good for me” is more apt in this century than it has been for a long time.

                    • Krazeecain says:

                      Ok, after reading your comment, and several others posted here, I can definitely see that I was mistaken. It isn’t completely harmless. However, it IS still better than tobacco and alcohol, and is the only one out of the three that has some medical benefits. It certainly doesn’t have the dire consequences that the majority of people/politicians claim it has. Klara does have a point, saying it isn’t as bad as tobacco does not justify legalization, however, there are still NUMEROUS other reasons to legalize it.

                    • mavisbeecon says:

                      Yeah he was a bit off on the ‘completely harmless’ part, but really the only real long term damage that it does as proven thus far in lab testing is the lung damage from smoke inhalation, all the ‘neurological damage’ is made up bulls**t.

                      • Anonyminous says:

                        ^ Correct. People that smoke marijuana have a 7% increased chance of lung cancer. That is it. The only PROVEN negative effect.

                  • Rusty says:

                    The cotton industry is another. Also the FDA board has Pharmaceutical board members! think I’ll have a cup of Jasmine tea it’s still legal right?

            • sigh says:

              well, imo, yes. yes we should..

              Morally speaking i dont see where the govornment gets the right to tell you what you can and cant do with your own body as long as it doesnt affect anyone else (and before you say drug addiction causes crimes that affect others we have punishments for those crimes already..)

              Practically speaking the war on drugs is NOT WINNABLE. it costs the govornment (im taking UK here, but i have no doubt its the same story everywhere) billions every year to fight, makes almost no dent in the actual sale of illegal narcotics (reports put the yearly amount seized at about 2-3% of total trade) and gives hundreds of millions every year to organised crime.

              and before some stupid muppet says people still get murdered despite it being illegal so should we make that legal: NO. making murder legal doesnt make it less harmful to society. making drugs legal DOES make them less harmful.

        • Slaine says:

          It’s more likely to have an accident under the influence of alcohol than marijuana. I should know, I drive high all the time and still refuse to drive drunk. Marijuana does not reduce my judgment or reaction time strong enough to negatively impact my driving. Alcohol does, and it’s legal.

          It’s not for everyone, but marijuana is not as destructive as this country makes it seem. Maybe if our cops smoked more bud, they would chill out and stop violently abusing citizens (although I’m pretty sure they already smoke bud, and that doesn’t stop them from beating the s**t out of people).

          • Miranda says:

            It’s hard to know if marijuana reduces your judgment or reaction time if you’re high. Lots of drunk people (and high people) think they’re “just fine” to drive and do normal things. The truth, however, is that they’re not.

            • 420CaliStoner says:

              And that’s why every stoner who drives high, like myself, still does it. It’s SO dangerous, and ALL of us are getting in accidents. S**t, I’ve been in more accidents sober than I have high.

      • Klara says:

        It’s not helpful in any way to a regular person, only if needed. And we need the government and laws to protect us from making stupid choices whether or not it limits our ‘freedom’. You can’t give everyone full responsibility cause not everyone has got this responsablilty. (I’m not from the US so my opinion on this doesn’t really matter, oh well.)

        • Duaner says:

          Granted, but relying on your government to know what’s best for you is a path that almost certainly leads to tyranny. Forced morality isn’t morality at all. What you describe sounds like giving away all right to decide for yourself in lieu of blindly trusting that in those in “power” will keep you safe with laws and not abuse their privileges. Never a good idea. I’ll sum it up with a quote from Timothy Leary ” Think for yourself, question authority.”

          • Klara says:

            Might be so, it’s all about finding a balance between both. I do think we need to make our own moral choices, but only if both options have it’s pros and cons. And I don’t see any pros in adding another drug (apart from economical benifit). It’s not going to replace the smoking or drinking, it’s just going to add up.

            If I had never known what alcohol tasted like because it wasn’t the norm my life wouldn’t have been worse in any way.

            • Duaner says:

              One of the biggest pros would be getting a fair population of weed smokers out of the legal system, thus increasing court time and reducing costs. Marginalizing the amount of economic impact such a move would create shows an obvious unwillingness to see this topic impartially… regardless, we all know that “drugs are bad”, even the pharmaceutical kind, yet we still choose to use them, even the illegal ones. Freedom of choice in action.

              • Klara says:

                Ok, the economical benifit might be important as well. But making something legal because it takes too much time, effort and money to keep it illegal doesn’t seem right. If they’re waisting too much time prosecuting or jailing minor drug offenders they should try to adapt and improve their legislations instead of just legalizing it altogether.

                • K... says:

                  You do know that getting caught illegally using marijuana carries as much weight as a traffic ticket (about $100 fine) right now in California if you aren’t a seller.

                  • Klara says:

                    No I didn’t to be honest, I had no idea about the punishment. But then where do all these costs come from?

                    • Jack says:

                      From people dealing or carrying larger amounts, or also carrying illegal weapons while carrying larger amounts.

                      I have no interest in using pot, but don’t see anything at all wrong with legalizing it and taxing the crap out of it. Regulating it won’t be too difficult, if its legal, major companies will become growers and run everyone else out of business.

                • Anonyminous says:

                  Considering that there isn’t a legitimate reason for it to be illegal in the first place, I’m not following you. Watch the documentary entitled, “Grass” if you can find it. It contains actual FACTS about marijuana and the US “War on Drugs.”

        • Dutchie says:

          Guys. Why does the Us than legalize guns which is way more dangerous than drugs. BTW every drugs can be used as drugs, if you know what i am saying.

          • Klara says:

            It this an argument to legalize marijuana?

            Yes gun control is bad in my opinion. But the fact that there are legal things that are more dangerous doesn’t mean that everything that’s less dangerous then the most dangerous legal item or drug should be legalized.
            The fact that alcohol and cigarettes are worse, doesn’t doesn’t count as an argument to legalize marijuana. It could on the other hand count as an argument to ban both.

          • Pols Voice says:

            Guns don’t hurt anyone. People do.

            • Kat says:

              Guns allow people to hurt people. In fact some guns are designed JUST to hurt people. But I suppose that doesn’t sound good on a bumper sticker…

              • Pols Voice says:

                If you put two people who hate each other alone in a room together without weapons, they will find a way to kill each other. If you put a person alone in a room with a gun, that gun is not going to kill that person. This is because guns are not sentient beings. They do not have free will. They are not capable of making the conscious decision to kill. Has a gun ever been put on trial for murder?

                • Duaner says:

                  Guns themselves may not kill people, but they make it far more simple. And to answer your question if a gun has ever been on trial for murder (even though it’s obviously rhetorical), no obviously not. However, it’s by far the most common murder weapon in the United States. Granted, we’re always going to find ways to kill each other, it’s a (confusing, to me at least) part of human nature, but does it really need to be so easy as just pushing a button?

      • PCstratos says:

        Still, I’m afraid that using drugs and other such substances is slowly starting to gain acceptance in our minds. More and more people perceive them as if it is just another harmless activity, that we are too conservative to accept. However, it is not a trivial thing. I know people who were “destined” for greatness, but drugs destroyed them. Smart and intelligent people, who started doing drugs for various reasons, and ended up being total wrecks. I don’t know about the economic boost that the legalization will provide, but I would much prefer to live in a poor country rather than a country full of potheads. Just my opinion.

        • robby7345 says:

          Were they truly destined for greatness if they didn’t have the self control to consume said drug responsibly?
          Most likely not.
          I do not want to be punished for other people’s mistakes.
          If someone is weak willed enough to be “destroyed” by pot, even without the drug, they would be wrecked sooner or later.

          • CC DeVille says:

            I gotta say that I agree with Dutchie, and totally disagree with Klara. I am totally for Prop 19. I don’t smoke weed, but the amount of money to be made taxing Marijuana, not to mention the time it would save for courts is too much to pass up. Its not that its simply easier to legalize it, it’s that the benefits of prosecuting people for use or possession of a readily available, and relatively harmless (in comparison to other drugs, alcohol, and tobacco included) are almost nonexistent, and are far outweighed by the cons. And the argument of “Marijuana provides no benefit for users” is ludicrous. Think about…cupcakes. Do we need them to survive? no. Do they tangibly improve our lives? No. Could they be potentially harmful? Yes, obesity is now the number one cause of preventable death in the world. Should they thus be illegal? No. It is up to us, and not our government to take responsibility for our actions and choices, especially relatively inconsequential ones. And if you are one of those “everyone who smokes weed will die a horrible death instantly” types, think of it as natural selection. I know it must be hard to grasp the idea of a straightedge person not only not judging those who choose to use drugs, but advocating it, but the pros seem to far outweigh the cons. And f**k, who am I to judge, right?

            • Klara says:

              Doing marijuana will immediatly give it’s effects. Eating a cupcakes won’t immediately get you obesed. An there’s nothing in a cupcake that harms a regular person. We need sugar so you can’t really ban it. Pretty horrible comparison (but it was probaly meant to be a someone simple comparison).

              It’s all about drawning a line somewhere, everything we enjoy can be bad for our health, I know that. But not everything should be legal and up to us to choose. How do you know that it’s relatively harmless when they can barely study the effect of smoked or vaporized marijuana because of the legal issues?

              • Some Guy says:

                The analogy isn’t bad. Doing marijuana will immediately give you a high (foods high in sugar will also give you an immediate “sugar rush” which will lead to tiredness and lethargy when it wears off) but it is incredibly unlikely to immediately cause any long term damage, and any other effect (for example, diseases stemming from the inhalation of smoke etc.) would be cumulative anyway, just like excess consumption of sugar leading to obesity.
                And, in fact, we don’t need sugar at all. Technically, carbohydrates themselves aren’t even essential nutrients (though it’s not a particularly good idea, it is possible to get all our required energy from protein and fats). However, for a healthy diet it would be advisable to consume a reasonable amount of complex carbs and maybe some simple carbs, say from sweet fruits (fructose) and dairy (lactose). The main sugar that you would find in cupcakes (sucrose), provides no nutritional benefit that you couldn’t get more efficiently and healthily from other foods.
                If sucrose was banned it certainly wouldn’t cause any ill effects to anyone’s health. If extrinsic sugar in general (i.e. sugar, like sucrose, added to food as opposed to intrinsic sugar which is naturally present) was banned and the ban was effectively enforced, I guarantee you that the health of the general population would be drastically improved. There would be terrible economic consequences, and people who have the self-control to eat healthily wouldn’t be able to indulge their sweet-tooth every now and then but obesity and it’s myriad or related problems would be reduced by a huge amount.
                Also, apart from the enjoyable short term effects, marijuana in moderation also has a host of well documented medicinal benefits, all sugar does is make things taste better.
                In any case, I don’t believe either marijuana or sugar should be banned, but this is a pointless argument anyway because it hinges on changing ones own political/philosophical ideology. Personally I believe in a greater degree of personal liberty than you, neither of us is right or wrong and it would would be naive of me to think that I can sway you to my viewpoint.

              • CDThe says:

                ‘How do you know that it’s relatively harmless when they can barely study the effect of smoked or vaporized marijuana because of the legal issues?’

                It’s legal in other countries, they study it there…

                • Klara says:

                  I didn’t say they hadn’t studied it at all. But they did study it way less then alcohol and cigarette smoke. So it’s not really fair to say it’s relativly (relative to alcohol and cigarette smoke) harmless.

                  • Kat says:

                    Yes it is. Even the military studies done in the 1950′s in the US showed that it was relatively harmless. It was still criminalized because of the amount of pressure the doctors were getting from outside sources.

              • Onceupop says:

                It’s a reasonable comparison. Your arguments against it aren’t to great though.
                Smoking marijuana will not make you addicted. Marijuana isn’t physically addicting (like alcohol and nicotin), only mentally and you can get mentally addicted to anything (even cupcakes).
                The thc in marijuana can cause neurotic issues to people who are genetically susceptible to it, not to every regular person.

                Oh and in my oppinion, everything SHOULD be legal and up to us to choose. I might be overestimating the intelligence of “the people”, but I think that with the correct information and social protection, everyone should be able to enjoy the advantages of drug use without sliding of to drug abuse. The way it is now, I feel limited in my freedom since other people decide on what I can and can’t do. This only applies to drugs and simular stuff: things that don’t cause any harm to other people.

                • Klara says:

                  It might not cause huge neurotic issues, but it inhibits synaptic transmission. Which might cause receptors in the synapses to disappear because of lack of stimulus.

                  Better argument?

                • Klara says:

                  When it comes to the addiction aspect you’re probably right though. But I don’t think the argument that sugar is needed is such a bad argument at all.

            • Pols Voice says:

              There’s just one thing that still worries me, and it’s the environment. How will all that extra smoke affect our air and, in turn, our respiratory health and the health of our plantlife and livestock? Or what about that ozone layer thing? Smoke is not good for anyone or anything. Smoke is very harmful.

              • Krazeecain says:

                Haha, don’t worry about the environment. Trust me, if a few million more smokers could throw off the balance of our environment, we’d already be screwed. Our environment’s fine anyways, I don’t buy into the Eco-friendly crap… -_- Seriously though, cars create a LOT more smoke than we ever could.

              • CDThe says:

                The ozone layer is far more impacted by methane from cows than ANY human output.

          • PCstratos says:

            Well, some people start using drugs because of peer pressure, and because they think that they aren’t really harmful. That’s why I’m saying we must not legalize them in our conscience, let alone in our law system.

            • robby7345 says:

              That will happen regardless of legality.
              I am hoping most adults can fight peer pressure.
              Kids on the other hand it will always be illegal to do it, no sane person alive would fight for the legalizing pot for kids.

    • Bertholdt Brecht says:

      People telling you not to do stuff because it isn’t cool are just the same as people telling you to do stuff because it is cool.

  8. jamisings says:

    Stupid potheads.

    World would be a better place if marijuana and tobacco went extinct.

    • MysteryJoker says:

      but whatelse will provide population control?

    • Duaner says:

      I just adore how anyone who smokes weed is stereotyped to be some Cheetos munching, giggling brainless wonder. You know, because drinkers are the most classy people around. All I have to say is enjoy your hangovers, liver damage and waking up next to a 400 lb slob his/her friends call Big Bertha (or Big Bob for those that are the fairer sex)… Oh and your sexy beer gut. Can’t forget that!

    • qarl says:

      Stupid fatties, the world would be a better place if fat people went extint.

    • Facepalm says:

      AGREED!!! (which is why i voted no)

    • Krazeecain says:

      Marijuana, or more specifically hemp, is one of THE most amazing plants in the world, and that has NOTHING to do with how high you get smoking it. It can be used to make biofuel, oil, clothing, plastic, and even protein-rich food. Hemp in particular contains no THC, so don’t worry about getting high from it…

      Don’t be so quick to follow the bullsh*t that corporations and politicians are spewing out, marijuana to smoke has health benefits, unlike tobacco or alcohol, so to say the world would be a better place without it is PURE ignorance. Try learning about the plant before making such stupid statements.

  9. punster says:

    Seriously, do you have any f**king clue how bad alcohol is for you? Marijuana is practically good for you compared to the s**t alcohol can do, and this is coming from a self confessed alcoholic.

    The world would not be a better place if the tobacco plant were extinct, as it forms a vital part of food webs and ecosystems everywhere- and the tobacco product supports economies all over the globe. If the cannabis plant were extinct, not only would we not have hemp fabric- but we wouldn’t have cannabis- a safe and enjoyable way of relaxing and unlocking new levels of conciousness (depending on the strength of your stash).

    I’m going to bring my rant to an end now- but you can understand my anger at being called a “stupid pothead” by someone with your grasp of the English language.

  10. ba12348 says:

    how did they even…

  11. Dante says:

    I don’t know if you have though about it but did you guys notice that alcohol causes A LOT of deaths (traffic accidents for example) and IT’S LEGAL?

    • Facepalm says:

      the sad thing is that they TRIED with prohibition (18th amendment) but people were unhappy so it was repelled (21st amendment). Frankly, I think alcohol, marijuana, and tobacco should all be illegal, but the fact of the matter is that too many people “rely” on that s**t

  12. Heather says:

    Funny, but my life is pretty great and I’ve never smoked pot, I don’t smoke anything else and I don’t drink. Imagine that–you can NOT damage your brain and STILL enjoy life. Wow.

    And I just have to laugh at the idiots who say that they’re not like typical stoners when they’re on pot. I’ve seen a LOT of people who say that, when they’re stoned and every single one of them is a clutz who can either barely keep themselves from laughing at absolutely nothing or freaking out over nothing. None of them behaves as they do normally and all of them think that they’re ‘different’ and are ‘totally normal’ while they’re stoned. They’re not. They’re just as bad as people who are drunk–just in a different way. And just as deluded that their judgment isn’t clouded.

    • robby7345 says:

      Who gives a s**t if you can enjoy life without it? Congrats! That’s great. DONT SMOKE IT THEN.
      Since when does the fact that you “don’t need something” mean no one else can have it?
      I don’t need (or want) cigarettes to make my life better, but I don’t care if some else does. Smoke to your heart’s content it doesn’t hurt me any!

    • Duaner says:

      …. And you know this based on, what? Personal experience? No… you don’t have that. This is an opinion probably based on seeing a bunch of teenagers acting like complete fools. More likely, based on stereotypes portrayed on TV and by the government in commercials. Sitting pretty on your high horse you can point down at things and demonize them quite easily. When you’ve tried it, not liked it and never tried it again, you can judge for yourself. Or better yet, actually talked to a long-term user and asked them what they think of it, how it effects them, why they use it, etc. Until then, all you have is an ignorant, uninformed opinion.

    • Slaine says:

      I’m higher than you right now, and that does not prevent me from posting a comment to attack your judgmental insipid comment.

      I smoke pot and I enjoy my life. I smoke pot and make conscious decisions. It’s not my fault you hang out with stupid people who cannot control themselves under the influence of any drug. Smoking weed hasn’t damaged my brain at all. In fact, I believe it very well does open new levels of consciousness. Do you know how many people smoke weed? I know judges and lawyers, doctors and nurses, cops and firefighters who smoke weed since we were in school together. Pot is a harmless drug that would be even more harmless legalized than illegal.

      • Mira says:

        Well, that’s debatable if you consider that we don’t know exactly how the human brain works. Also, long-term effects of pot-smoking include memory loss, hearing loss, and other impairments.

        My ex’s dad smoked weed for 30 years, and he no longer has a sense of taste, smell, and can barely follow a conversation because his short-term memory is so terribly impaired.

        Seems a bit dangerous to meddle with brain chemistry (yes, including various “happy pills” on the market) if we’re not sure how it works…

        • CDThe says:

          ‘Seems a bit dangerous to meddle with brain chemistry’

          You sound like one of those people who are against anti-depressants or other medications as well.

    • CDThe says:

      And I’m on enough medications to almost cause liver damage (all prescribed) and I don’t drink or smoke and I HATE LIFE. I wish I could get some pot to smoke.

      Your correlation is pure crap. I’ve lived with people who smoke pot and I’d rather live with those guys than anyone who has every drunk booze. For instance you don’t get beaten up by someone who is stoned.

    • Kat says:

      It would shock you, I think, if you found out how many politicians, professors, lawyers, bureaucrats and general professionals smoke pot on a daily basis. And imagine that- they are still maintain positions of authority!
      Not everyone responds to pot the same, and not every body “on pot” is automatically a hardcore stoner.

  13. CommonZentz says:

    The proponents should have told the smokers there were free munchies in the ballot stands. They would have gotten all the votes they needed.

  14. Lladnar says:

    Well think of it this way:Stoners want pot legal so they can smoke with out care. Drug dealers and all those affiliated with that:Don’t want it legal, it takes away from their income. Well smart drug dealers don’t want it legal. Wouldn’t surprise me if drug dealers and those associated with them voted against prop 19 so they can stay in business.

  15. TJanssen411 says:

    Personally I find it funny that California wants to make Pot Legal and cites it as a states’ Rights issue, while most of the people/organizations that want to Boycott Arizona over the enforcement of Immigration laws (which is also a case of states’ rights) are from California.

    hypocrisy much?

  16. Justice says:

    I’d vote to legalize marijuana only if people on welfare have to take a drug test and if they fail are removed from welfare, and if people who use drugs have to buy private insurance and cannot get any government health care benefits.

    Until those things happen, no. No pot. None of my money will ever go to help out habitual drug abusers.

    True the same thing goes for alcohol and fat people, but as of right now I want to hold the line against SOMETHING before we turn into an even lazier society that permits all things and expects nothing from its citizens.

  17. robby7345 says:

    Amen.
    The moment I learned of prop 19′s existence I said to myself “this will fail miserably.
    Much to the dismay of men and women of logic all around the globe, it did.

  18. Nick says:

    Imagine this scene:

    The place: An apartment building in East Palo Alto.
    The time: 4:20 PM, Tuesday, November 2nd, 2010.

    [sound of bubbles]

    Fred: Hey, man, wasn’t there something we were supposed to do today?

    [more bubbles]

    Chuck: I dunno, man, but quit bogarting the s**t!

    [more bubbles]

    Fred: No way, man, get your own. The dealer’s just two doors down.

    Aaaand… scene.

  19. facepalm says:

    Sad thing is, I’m in Cali, and I was all for 19 gettin’ passed. But damn Liberals and Conservatives alike just shot it straight to hell. One side considered the “public effects”, while the other considered it from their rather obvious Conservative standpoint. Oh, and please, don’t generalize Americans as dips**ts. That’s only 75% of the population. XP

  20. CodeRed says:

    Did anyone else notice that the wording of the question on the ballot was definitely biased towards voting yes? That would be like letting one candidate put their campaign slogan on the ballot. Did that seem wrong to anyone else or just me?

  21. kent says:

    Yeah, stupid Americans. The US is the ONLY country on the planet where Marijuana is still illegal, right?

  22. me miself and i says:

    how did this all start over a verydemotivational pic?

  23. CDThe says:

    I’d always vote yes for legal pot – there is no evidence it leads to harder drugs anymore than drinking a pint of beer leads onto shooting up with heroin.

    Also, I believe there would be less violent crime.

  24. Anoymous says:

    Marijuana was decriminalized earlier this year in California, it is impossible to get arrested for possession of about an ounce or less, it is only considered an infraction.

  25. Rose says:

    You need to read and understand the entire prop before you can see why we voted no. I want pot to be legal, however prop 19 was written in such a way as to allow the police and local governments more busts and fines on civilians. Just read the props before you vote on them. If you read and understood and still voted yes, this is not directed at you.

  26. jake says:

    actually, marijuana kills plenty, just not as itself, if you ask anyone who uses heroin what they started with, its always marijuana, it impairs you, and while driving it is as bad as alcohol, i believe alcohol and marijuana should be illegal, but we saw what happened with that in the early 1900′s. Marijuana should never be legalized, and it should actually have laws against it strengthened.

  27. NeilG says:

    When I ‘wer a lad, I may have smoked a little pot…no job, no ambition, no hope…but being high was fun.

    Then I got a whole new bunch of friends and stopped taking it…got a job, an education, a girlfriend and a mortgage. I now am not only a part of society, but contribute to it.

    And can still get plastered on the weekends. :) Pot sucked.


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