Atheism is so mainstream.
Of course, atheists are slightly smarter than religious nuts, but they’re still ranked waaay down there in the scale of intelligence.
Right, right, no good without evil, no night without day. But if we had constant daylight, it isn’t day that would be lost, it would just be the concept of day. We’d still need rest periods and wakeful periods, and we would have some way of labeling each “day” to distinguish it from the ones before or after. Likewise, we’d still have good, just not the concept of it opposed to evil. It’s a tautological argument that isn’t very useful. Without good, there’d be no not-good. Well, without r@pe there’d be no unr@ped, but is anyone suggesting we keep it so people can be grateful if they fall on the good side of that argument?
Ok so you believe there can be endless day and all can be perfect. We can all be friends and share … realy
No just like if it was a endless day alot of the life on earth would not be able to adapt and would just die, people would have not free choice the one thing that makes us true humans. If we were unable to decide would we be truly free?
You missed the point. I didn’t say endless day would be fantastic; I said that day wouldn’t be lost, just the concept of it. It was an example to explain that a concept is different from the thing. And whether people truly do have free will is debatable. If God knows everything, then we can only choose to do what he already knows we will choose to do; if you only believe in science, some neuroscientists are saying that we DO things before the reactions in our brain CHOOSE to do them, so choice is an illusion, and we are the product of our chemicals, experiences and knowledge. Of course, the knowledge that we will be punished factors into our “decisions” so we have to still continue to believe in free will regardless, and punish people who don’t act like we say they should.
You also seem to miss the point that evolution really does happen, so if there was “endless day,” then everything on Earth would already be adapted to it.
And Layla19 pretty much covered how much you make no sense with the free choice, so ultrakudos to her.
You fail at both religion and science. You should probably quit while you’re devastatingly far behind
We all know evolution exist its in the 7th grade school in the rest of the world. Its on all science channels soo get over yourself. I dont like churches and priests, but its STUPID, IDIOTIC and Ignorant to put all people who have some sort of spirituality in the same pot. Endless day does not exist NOW and on earth, right? Just like we have a option to be good, bad and indifferent,right? If over night these 2 changed what would happen? Plain and simple we cant know the Monkeylord is right, if we had no choise we would have nothing at all
You are missing the original point of why good can exist without evil or any other option. It is just the concept and word that would lose meaning. Just like the day night example so be a religious moron elsewhere.
Absolutely amazing… logical thought and philosophy in action. In a sea of idiocy I just found an island of classical wit and unbridled sanity. I salute you!
That’s the most overused and worst arguement for the existence of evil. ‘Oh these people don’t know what to aspire to, lets bang in some evil to the world so they can have a point of reference…wait what, why are people indulging in it!?’ is not what an omniscient, all loving God would do. Fool.
Wow.. Just gonna take a second to let that sink in..
Ok
The notion that evil is necesarry is like saying that a cup that isn’t full has no volume or worth for that matter. Evil is not a requirement for good. Good happens in the absense fo evil constantly all around us. There is no reason to believe that we can’t have only-good other than the crooked dydact that there is such a thing as a necesarry evil. This is lazy thinking for people who cannot or will not trouble themselves to work for a solution that doesn’t hurt others. If it were really true that we could not have good without evil, nobody would ever work to make the world a better place.
Free will does not have to be the choice between good an evil it is the choice of what you do. That encompasses more then a moral issue. I suggest you take a entry level psych and philosophy class ASAP.
MikeL Religion has nothing to do with belief in a deity. just because you hate religion doesnt make you athiest. You can still be spiritual without religion.
> Since I hate religion, I MUST be an atheist, right?
Umm…
Yes, genius, hating religion is generally the mark of an atheist. It would be quite odd to find a theist who hates religion… and agnostics don’t care one way or another.
So yes, you do fit the stereotype you dug out for yourself.
A brief word of caution: one who hates religion is (in all likelihood) an atheist, but don’t think that all atheists are hostile people who run around saying mean things and acting all condescending towards everyone else. We’re not. All men are human, but not all humans are men. All religion-haters are probably atheists, but not all atheists are religion-haters.
I agree completely. There is nothing I hate more in this world than religion, and the idea that any one group, because they believe it, is better than every other group who doesn’t.
People start wars and spread hatred in the name of “God,” and in reality end up betraying their possible deity.
Honestly, I don’t mind the idea of an afterlife, a deity, or fate; in fact, I’d prefer to think that there is. It’s the idea that any one person is any more right than anyone else who has had an idea as to our lives after death.
I find things like The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster to be just as reasonable a theory as Christianity or any other of those organized religions.
Corcoran – What do you mean, “not all encompassing”? Islam has everything every other religion has – a creation myth, an end-times myth, and laws (Sharia) governing how people must behave, and how non-believers are to be dealt with (not kindly, btw).
Islam is the religion yes, and muslims are the *followers* of that religion. Please phrase yourself better next time, if indeed that is what you meant.
Yes, in the sense that Christians are a people, Muslims are a people. You get the point I’m trying to make, which was to distinguish between a belief system and the people who follow it.
just because it is required doesnt mean each atheist hates religion.
Its like fundamental terrorists. They require a strong believe, but not ever believer is a rerrorist.
You can decline that, but please do me a favour then and shoot yourself for being a potential religious terrorist.
You can believe in a god and still hate religions. You can think that all the religions are wrong. You can think that spiritual belief should be private, or that religions do more harm than good, or that people gathering in large groups is almost never a good idea. None of those ideas negate believing in a god.
Atheism is NOT required.
You’ve got misotheists, who believe in God, and hate him.
Also a lot of people are spiritual but don’t belong to a religion, because they don’t like religion, because it causes bad things (at least according to them).
There are also agnostics like me that believe that all notions of supreme entities and afterlife theories don’t matter. The life you lead should be dedicated towards doing the right thing, for the sake of should. Besides, religious hate has caused enough genocides, massacres, and wars to overshadow the ideal of a god.
One of the things that does bother me is the fact that people automatically assume you are atheist if you don’t technically have an organized religion.
In conclusion,
Atheist=doesn’t believe in God
Agnostic=doesn’t care if there is a god.
I’m an atheist but I don’t hate religion, I just dont “get” it.
If people take strength from it then whatever.
Being so blinkered by it that you refuse to accept evidence right in front of you of evolution, earth being more than 2000 years old (or whatever it is they claim) IS stupid.
I hope you realise that there are a few, and I mean a few Christians that are non-literalists and are pluralists. They don’t take the Bible completely seriously, they take morals and messages from the stories, but also believe that everyone has the right to theor own religion and that everyone is right in their own way.
Yeah well, then you return to the big dilemma, if you start to fish out stuff from the bible that are true/useful, and those that are not, what are you criteria to do so? I basically once asked this question to myself, and it’s there where I decided to reject all of it as a block. I can get morals from elsewhere…
To be fair, there a lot of contradictory quotes in the Bible, some people even use it to support racism and sexism. I don’t really take much from the Bible, I also agree that morals are easier to find elsewhere. However, stories like ‘The Good Samaritan’ have morals which can be helpful.
H*ll yea! Good point, that is the mine type of thing! Believing in Jesus Christ and being a Christian, but don’t take that stuff with the condoms, etc that often the church restricts(and often later rehabilitates). A man should hear his inner voice… the one that the Holy Spirit quietly whispers. That is always the right thing to do. If you can hear it course.
As far as atheist and other non believers goes … it’s their decision(although it might change in the future, no matter what they say now), and i am sure their position is a pretty sad one
I can only speak for myself on this one, but it was never a decision to be an atheist for me. I tried for years and years to force myself to believe, and could not. So “becoming” an atheist was not so much a decision, as just recognizing that I did not believe. And yes, it may change in the future…with evidence. I’m just not built (figure of speech, not literal) to believe in things. I do not find it sad to be an atheist. Sometimes I miss the community, the feeling of belonging to something much, much larger than humans can manage, but it doesn’t make me sad. What did make me sad was wondering why a god who loved us would let so much of the world suffer so much. I am much happier now, thank you, and no longer fear hell, although I was (and am) moral and behaved well both before and after identifying as an atheist.
Its stupid to believe Atheist are somehow superior. Most atheists are smug and selfcentered. I make my money of computer programming and i dont mind lighting a candle from time to time. I am a ortodox christian from a country where the priests drive S class mercedes and tell the people to be humble and fear god more. I hate these people but i believe there is a much much deeper meaning in the philosophy, NOT in the perversion the atheists like to see. When people are stupid fuccks they will be stupid atheists or religious freaks. Also i read all your comments its pathetic to cry for soo much attention.
About freedom of choice… the actions begins in the subconcion before the brain can give the command, ok maybe but if you take 1 hour to make a important decision is this still predetermined? Do you realy believe in the Athene theory that time and space is the same thing and times runs back as space expands? i liked that theory but i cant accept it. It would mean all is predetermind and i think i have the freedom to determine my own future
One could consider me a atheist, i have not been to church in 3-4 years i have never prayed. But why is it soo hard to pick up a bible other religious book and think about the meaning behind it. Spirituality is something deep and something personal. I watched the zeitgeist movies and their merciless decomposition of christianity and i agreed with them, but later i saw them beg for money they claim is the root of all evil and i give it all second thought. It is easy to get cought up in the big theories, and new hard science facts but the more we learn the more we have to realize that we know less than 1% of the mysteries of the universe. We will die and rot way before we have any of the answers we want to know. Why is it wrong for someone who reads science fiction, listens to Tool (anti-religous band btw), likes Ricky Gervais and other atheistic artists to say “I Believe in something bigger than all of us”. Telling me i cant do that you try to deprive me of my free choice and noone has that right
@Dragoryn- Where did I say atheists are superior? Perhaps you have me confused with the voices in your head. And participating in a debate is hardly a cry for attention. Projecting? And quit reading all my comments, you creepy creeper.
I’m also glad that I have found someone else who feels the same way I believe that more Christians should try and accept others views rather than just decide to condemn them.
So believing the Earth is 6000 years old without proof makes me a retard, but believing that it is 3.4-4 billion years old, also without proof, makes you intelligent? The thing is that believing in evolution takes just as much faith as believing in creationism, if not more. Creationists believe that a divine being, in my case a loving God, created the world. Evolutionists believe that there was nothing, not even matter, and that somehow organic molecules appeared, exploded and released enough energy to create life. Scientists have already come to the conclusion that the “big bang” theory is absurd and impossible. They just don’t have another idea as to how life came to be, except that God created the world, and they won’t dare say that, as the majority of experts in this field are atheists. There are multiple evidences for the biblical prospective of life. These evidences, however, are used on both sides of the argument. The underlying problem here is hyperpartisanism. Most evolutionists refuse to even consider the ideas of creationism, and vice versa.
(Further note: the big bang theory is not the same thing as the theory of evolution. “Where did the universe come from” and “Where did life come from” are not the same question, even if a creationist sees them as having the same answer.)
Agreed. Also worth noting is that the questions of “Where did life come from” and “What happened with this ‘life’ thing after that?” are distinct as well.
What makes people intelligent, is observing our reality and making rational decisions on what we see and what we can test. All evidence we have found points to evolution, while creation stories from most major religions were written 1000s of years ago. Creationism is basically completely ignoring a ton of evidence right in front of you and not willing to search for answers in areas we don’t fully understand yet (e.g. a biogenesis, which is separate from evolution by the way).
Also, take an astronomy course at your local college or something. The Big Bang theory is what happened, as seen in evidence in the cosmic microwave background and the uniform percentage of helium to hydrogen found in all stars in the universe. Look it up.
I don’t know what kind of brainwashing you’ve been subject to, but there is plenty of proof for both the 4 billion year old world and evolution. If someone could get as much evidence for creationism as there is for evolution, maybe scientists would take you seriously. All you have to go on is the bible, and the bible is true because the bible says it is true. Just google evolution for all the evidence we have…
Also, a LOT of scientists become atheists AFTER becoming scientists, and the more they understand about science, the more they feel that a god was NOT involved. Scientists don’t hate religion, and unfairly ignore it. They like PROOF.
You can’t pick and choose the bits of science you like!! The PROOF of the 4 billion year old world (and to a lesser extent evolution) is what drives your car. Oil COULD NOT EXIST in a 6000 year old world.
Look, the Big Bang Theory does have proof. I have a GCSE in Astronomy and know that the background radiation and red and blue spectrums support this. You can be Christian and believe in the Big Bang Theory as I do. There is so much proof to back it up. In fact, some Christians believe that God could have started the Big Bang.
perhaps God caused the big bang, and the us of several thousand years ago just couldn’t understand that concept and made up something that sounded nice.
^THAT while I now consider myself agnostic, I had that belief as a christian, The bible was written thousands of years ago when there was less understanding of the way things worked back then people
might not have accepted that the world could be so old so when God inspired the bible he told the story of creation in such a way that it would be understood and accepted at that time.
Oh dear, there is so much wrong here it’s painful.
All I can suggest is taking basic science classes. I’m not sure who’s been lying to you – a preacher, a Creationist blog, your parents, or whatever – but I’m pretty sure your religion strictly prohibits that.
Please, you’ve clearly been the victim of indoctrination but let us try to call out to your ability to reason; are you seriously suggesting that scientists, even the religious ones apparently, have decided on hugely elaborate stories as an alternative to saying Godidit even though they know Godidit (but are still somehow atheists despite knowing that God exists and that Godidit, bizarrely)? How did they manage to fabricate such huge abundances of evidence all over the globe, including within every single life form?
There is no ‘faith’ involved in accepting evolution happened. It’s not a matter of opinion, I’m afraid. It’s an observed fact and logical necessity. You can’t possibly believe that it takes faith to ‘believe’ it happened, the idea is simply laughable. It’s the most heavily supported scientific theory (and from your post I expect I’ll have to explain that theory doesn’t guess, it means explanation) of all time and is supported by pretty much every subject you can think of.
Actually, most of the Atheists I know, including myself, don’t hate religion. We can be very tolerant if necessary(oh, say, if we live in a community in which the majority of the population is religious and we actually want friends). Not to mention that religion is a huge part of history and the arts. Personally, I actually want to read the bible, but only as a work of historical fiction loosely based upon fact.
Actually, not believing in a higher power is generally the mark of an Atheist. Agnostics generally believe in something, but don’t know what. I believe in a higher power, but don’t know what it is, and I also hate organized religion. What does that make me?
I see. So when you mature, you begin to believe in virgin births, resurrection, all-knowing fairies who are in constant psychic communication with their worshippers, and the Red Sea parting on command.
I prefer immaturity, then, if the alternative is wilfully cultivated stupidity.
That, my friend, is the same stupidity taken to the hundredth power. Do you even consider the possibility of there being some people who hold beliefs AND are not hillbillies from Texas? I feel sorry for your ignorance. But then again, you are american…
[See what I did here? I just used the same stupid generalization that you did. Did not mean to offend.]
Ahh yes, hurling insults at a huge amount of people because one person spoke badly of your precious religion. You, sir, are clearly the epitome of maturity.
Tommy’s right, Austin (while awesome) is hardly a major city. Kind of hard to call Texas Hicksville when you don’t even know our major cities (which happen to be pretty damn diverse), Houston especially.
Hello. I live in Tennessee, and have for my whole life. I live about 3 hours from Dayton, TN where the Scopes trial took place. It is not even a large city where everyone is thought to be more liberal than the smaller towns. I was taught evolution in school and no, there were none of biases that you seem to think held over from 86 years ago.
Plus, we know how to spell the word KANSAS.
That is all.
Because religion is NOT a history and science class! I go to Harmony Science Acadamy and evolution is very very likely and you people just have to to cling to your little books.
I’m a democrat and an aithest and i’m 11 and a girl and i live in north Texas.
Because religion is NOT a history and science class! I go to Harmony Science Acadamy and evolution is very very likely and you people just have to to cling to your little books.
I’m a democrat and an aithest and i’m 11 and a girl and i live in north Texas.
Nah. I live in Kansas, and we have normal, scientific textbooks. But that doesnt stop the religious people here from believing the most retarded things.
No, we didn’t teach it. The state school board would like us to introduce “intelligent design” (AKA religion without saying the G-word). I’ll have to double-check the current TEKS, but I don’t think it’s officially in yet.
Doesn’t bother me; I address evolution, creationism, alien seeding and the Flying Spaghetti Monster when I start the unit, then quietly keep working with evolution the rest of the year.
The person who made this surely realizes the whole Texas school book things was a big lie created by the left? Perhaps he needs to go read a book instead of spreading propaganda.
It’s all part of a plot by the Right to make people think the Left are a bunch of Trolls. They’re also secretly pushing for gay marriage in order to breed the gays out of existence. It’s true, I read it on Blogspot.
Hey now, I’ve lived in Georgia since I was five. And trust me, they teach evolution, not some religiously-biased garbage.
Granted, there are a TON of idiot rednecks around, and I know a few of them. They tend to give me a good laugh when they talk of how the bible has been scientifically proven to be 80-90% accurate.
Know what’s funny? I live in Tx and i love you Georgian people but people call it the “Texas” accent but the only person i know with that seemingly “Texas accent” is a transfer from Georgia.
Ahh, fond memories of going to high school in Oklahoma, and seeing a girl in strangler jeans, cowboy boots, and a plaid button-up shirt claim that “Texans are just a bunch of rednecks.”
i live in texas and this isn’t funny like I’m not saying this because it’s making fun of me or anything this was just a crappy joke… I’m actually really smart… my IQ is 145 =P
The only thing your IQ is good for is joining Mensa, and the stuff they offer for joining isn’t worth the cost, anyway. IQ does not necessarily mean “smart” since everyone defines it differently, and it can refer to “book-learnin,’” “Street smarts,” “emotional intelligence,” or any number of things specific to different fields. Autistic savants (apologies if this is no longer correct term, no offense meant) are often very, very smart in their specialty but often are not well adapted to communication or social smarts. I found this joke amusing because I enjoy silly dinosaur jokes, regardless of whether they’re poking fun of someone else, too (and I’m from Texas).
P.S. I have also gotten 145 on an IQ test, but I found it more amusing than something to brag about, because I’m sometimes quite stupid. I try to put on my shoes before my pants roughly three times a week.
wtf. why Texas? i’m from Texas and iv’e lived all over the country, the text books being almost identical. I think this would fit Arkansas better bro. btw, you count on one of those dislikes to be from me.
Well yeah, it’s one of the biggest any states in the US. Only Alaska is bigger, and Alaska is mostly frozen tundra and/or great fishing, depending on which TV show you watch.
Know what’s funny?
I’m from Texas and i’m Aithest and Democratic and i’m 11 and a girl.
And i have dreams for being in the House of Reps.
Or a least a Senator.
We don’t actually produce the texts. It’s just that as such an incredibly large purchaser (the state, when new books are adopted), the state has an awful lot of influence on what goes into the books.
Texas also has the strictest regulations on what can go into text books & its cheaper to mass produce them to Texas’ standards as opposed to other states more lenient standards. So when It is decided what goes into a textbook in the US for k-12 it is usually based off of those standards. Which have taught me in Minnesota, a very liberal state…
If you hate everybody, I think that’s technically considered being a Misanthropist. I suppose in a sci-fi or fantasy setting you could just be racist towards humans in general though.
Gawd, I hate it when sci-fi/fantasy mixes up the meanings of “species” and “race” to mean whatever left-leaning social message they wish to spew. The distinction between the two words gets lost in the public mind, and bad policy is made on this muddling.
To wit, Star Trek: Enterprise. In the final series, a bad guy stole DNA from a human and a Vulcan officer, to genetically-engineer a baby (which later died), to show people what an abomination such a thing would be (?!). We are expected to find the bad guy a horrible person for being against this “race-mixing”. Ah, but humans and Vulcans are different _SPECIES_ – hence the complicated genetic procedure. Now, would the high-minded folks who wrote this feel the same if it were a human-chimp cross? After all, we’re talking DIFFERENT SPECIES, and intelligence has nothing to do with it.
Or would they advocate humans screwing chimps, just as they advocate humans screwing aliens?
You asked, “Would they advocate humans screwing chimps, just as they advocate humans screwing aliens.” That is the part I was talking about. Aliens, of sufficiently advanced intelligence, can give consent. If you want chimps to be able to give consent, you’ll have to march on Washington. There’s kinda laws against it now.
Sort of…Any State in the Union has the right to nullify an Act, Law, etc. passed by Congress if they can prove that they have good cause and the measure is carried by their State legislature. This is including in Alien and Sedition Acts, specifically the Virginia and Kentucky clauses (penned by Thomas Jefferson). During the American Civil War the States that seceded from the Union chose to nullify the Consitution of The United States. Lincoln then proceeded to ignore the Constitution as well, and placed a naval blockade around his own country. Which brings up whether or not the Constitution is valid or just convenient, lol.
Well, any constitution is nothing more than words on paper, utterly powerless in and of itself. Its power comes from people agreeing to abide by what it says.
If the people no longer can agree, then the piece of paper becomes as meaningless as yesterday’s grocery list.
Any state can secede but since Texas was annexed by mutual treaty rather than purchased or conquered, it is the only state guaranteed automatic recognition as a separate country by the U.S. And several other countries in the world (i.e. Most countries in a political alliance with the U.S.)
Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other “free and independent State”) from the United States. Joining the “Union” was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option.
During the Civil War era the Confederate States (including Texas) withdrew from the Union lawfully, civilly, and peacefully, after enduring several decades of excessive and inequitable federal tariffs (taxes) heavily prejudiced against Southern commerce. The South’s rejoining the Union at the point of a bayonet in the late 1860s didn’t prove secession is “not an option” or unlawful. It only affirmed that violent coercion can be used—even by governments.
Wow, ace job of quoting a website! And blithely ignoring that your “Southern commerce” was primarily fueled on the backs of /slave labor/. You’ll have to excuse those of us that think it was an unbearable way of life and one that went on for a shamefully long time.
That being said, in all fairness I’m sure there are just as many religious morons in Texas as there are in any other state.
Sigh. Yes, slavery is bad. However, keep in mind that the Brits/Americans only tapped into a pre-existing market in black African slaves, run by Arab Moslems for centuries before we started buying. Oh, and slave-hunting was done by Africans themselves.
American blacks should be thankful they fell into the hands of Brits/Americans and not the Muslims. For one thing, the whites allowed them to breed (Muslim slave-owners like to neuter their slaves). And what sensible American black really wishes his ancestors had been left in Africa, for him to be born there today?
Something tells me we made this a religion debate over nothing.
It’s not saying anything religious, at least as far as I can tell. It’s not like it’s saying that God was punishing them for Gluttony, it’s just saying they ate all the food and couldn’t find more-a legitimate way for a species to die out.
Something tells me this was a cute little quip for kids that no-one was supposed to take seriously. It’s like taking science from a comedic faux-science book that included little bits like funny fake dinosaurs and a color-by-dots of ancient ridiculously impossible creatures (Saber-Toothed Kitten, anyone?)
Somehow, I’m included to believe that this image was created by the Mormons. After all, they believe the magnets work because the magnets have pieces of gravity stuck in them. The kind of mind that can believe that nonsense can believe this absurdity too.
Well, being from one of the most conservative areas in Texas, I can honestly say, nope….not even close. Our textbooks are literally the same as everywhere else…including the fact that we were taught the theory of evolution in high school. I don’t know why Texas was picked for this one since Texas, although conservative, doesn’t even come close to some states. In fact, I’m not sure if this goes under ultra-conservative or not….most people I know from the deep south bible belts don’t actually believe dinosaurs existed…
This image said nothing of religion. You children are retards.
Almost as retarded as the moron who made this, and cannot tell the difference between TX and KS.
Nowhere near as moronic, however, as the people who equate liberalism with intelligence or education level. You kids get a special sticker for the day.
Stupidity, as this picture and these comments prove, knows no political or regional boundaries.
Lovingly yours,
-a guy form the country with more brains, education, and life experience than you.
Ok Mr High-and-Mighty, who shoved the silver spoon up your ass and made you better than everyone else? Glad you have the education to be smart enough to see that the existence of dinosaurs is one of the points of debate for religions.
As your own comment proves, “Stupidity…knows no political or regional boundaries.” I even quoted it for you. No go back to you supposedly superior country of Imaginationland and tell the Lion from Narnia I’m still waiting for his challenge.
Awwww, I get under your skin? Scroll up and look at the image, Mister Quotes, and quote me where it mentions religion. This is a leap taken by every smarmy little twit like yourself.
I stand by my post:
-The image makes no mention of religion.
-Assuming the religious implication, the image still got the state wrong. It was Kansas, not Texas that went to court over creationist public curriculum. Proof that self-righteous children like yourself are NOT as smart as you think you are.
Ok, I just mentioned the fact that dinosaurs are one of the main points of debate for religious fanatics and you still don’t think this has anything to do with religion? Granted this didn’t need to turn into a religious debate but as usual only one person needs to say one thing and it becomes one.
Also I actually mentioned Kansas and even the Scopes Trial earlier so obviously you don’t care to read too many comments. But whatever, since I’m apparently a child I’ll just go eat some Cheetos and drink my apple juice.
Isn’t Texas ranked 46th out of 50 in education (for those who cannot tell, 1 being the best, 50 being the worst) or something to that extent? So that means there are less intelligent states. You can’t explain that. (And Texas even gets all the Mexicans.)
Please shush. I’m from Tx and i’m 11 and i read at a post high school level and read college books. i’m in the Above averege classes. All of them and i’m just about to enter 6th grade.
Based on research done by the American Legislative Exchange Council, Texas is ranked 8th based on standardized testing of 4th and 8th graders nationwide. Whether or not standardized testing works is an entirely different conversation.
I think it’s obvious the T-Rex didn’t dig his own hole, he either a) made another dinosaur his biatch and forced it to dig the hole for him or b) looked though the yellow pages and hired a contractor…
religious people are nothing more but agnosts, hence their evergoing quest to try to prove the existence of God and yet up until now they cannot.
i refuse to be in one of those groups, as i am not connected to “God” the almighty brainwasher. i have read and heard about bibilical texts. oh the joy of trying to prove that god does not exist. useless and a waste of time.
Anyone realised, that only Americans (Yes yes, with small exeptions and no – I don’t mean all Americans by that) are stupid enough to believe such bullsh*t?
U guys r all teh dumber then me lol. lol. lol. lol. u need 2 assurtain intelejance. Idiot Attheists, idit theists, idiot trolls, idiot troll spoturs who use the usual vurbatum (liek “trolololo’ r wwut ‘Me” sed. u mus all com from 50 of 50 state. I come from 1 of 50. Life-noobs hoo arent orijanal.
Wow, apparently Texas + Dinosaur joke = a lot of comments. You would think some of these people commenting would have a sense of humour. They are on a joke site after all.
Atheism has no relatioship with hatred
Atheism has no relationship with religion
Atheism has no relationship with evolution
Not all religions have a God
Not all Gods have a religion
Many people who believe in a God hate all religions
If you want people to take you seriously as a theist you have to stop being academically lazy and actually learn what Athism is. Treating it like anti-christianity makes you and others of your faith look stupid and it teaches you an worldview that prevents you from dealing effectively with the majority of humans on the planet.
Ramen! I follow the FSM in an attempt to try and maintain my sense of humor in the face of religious fanatics and those who espouse atheism. I have no feelings about it one way or another. If there is one great Cosmic Being running the whole show he must have one hell of a waped sense of humor. If that be the case, we will get along quite well. ARRRR!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
-Epicur
Please, may the one who is able to get his religion out of that one please step forward?
I´ll be waiting…
No, we don’t teach that. Some little groups believe dinos aren’t real, and some want to teach creationism in schools, so this joke is kind of playing on the absurdity of non-science in science class. This, so far as I know, has never even been suggested. There is a rule, though, that every joke you think is too ridiculous will eventually become true. I look forward to that dinosaur book when it comes out.
Just as valid as any other argument I’ve heard. Not a comment on religion, (Unless you believe the earth was created somewhere around 6000 years ago or so?) More a comment on extinction. Only problem is that we didn’t find any shovels at the bottom of the holes. All arguments are invalid until we create time travel! Live with it. Humans rule! (for a little while)
Mkay so this picture somehow morphed from a low-blow to Texans (p.s. Ef you you northern douche) to an argument about atheism (p.p.s. Religion is not a joke, go blow yourself you atheist pricks). How does that work out?
P.p.p.s. I’ve lived in Texas all my life, and though I can’t remember a full unit on the extinction of the dinosaurs, it has managed to rear its ugly head every year. On that note, not even the morons who make 20s in science have proposed something on this level of stupidity. Just in case you guys were wondering.
This is such a ridiculous demotivational… everyone knows that T.Rex had tiny McNugget forearms, and could NEVER use a shovel. Harumph!
And yes, I’m from Texas, too. I thought this was funny, in a painful sort of way. We still have yahoos on the State Board of Education trying to get creationism taught in science classes, and we have a creation museum just down the road from… wait for it… Fossil Rim National Park. *facepalm* If you don’t laugh at it, you’d just have to cry.
so God created the dinosaur, then discovered his mistake and sent a meteor into the Earth so there would be an ice age and that wiped them out and then God created light and read a book called “Creation for Idiots”
While I’m not saying that this isn’t occasionally (unfortunately) true, I’d just like to say that I’m from Texas, believe that evolution is a valid theory, and I’m a devout Christian.
Also? this joke was funny. You guys taking it seriously/being ignorant enough to think it was true? not so much. Many thanks to AFP and Blarney for their attempts at SRS BZNSS/ignorant folk damage control
If you’ve ever looked into the public education system in Texas, this is hilarious. It’s in the bottom five states CONSISTENTLY in almost every education-related statistic.
This is funny as hell. Almost as funny as religion, of course.
Oh look! Another immature athiest who thinks he’s cool!
^ He mad.
he jelly.
another inbred red neck
Ouch. That hurts.
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No but seriously that was a Cold Shot.
It was…
P.s. You win
Who ever said I was an atheist? Since I hate religion, I MUST be an atheist, right? Cuz, you know, you HAVE to classify people with EVERYTHING
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Atheism is so mainstream.
Of course, atheists are slightly smarter than religious nuts, but they’re still ranked waaay down there in the scale of intelligence.
Actually, my religion is pretty obscure. I doubt you’ve ever heard of it.
Cult of Ctulhu?
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
“I absolutely believe in God, and I hate the bastard.”
The Chronicles of Riddic- Pitch Black.
To sum it up, you can believe in God, in faith, in religion, and have a legitimate reason to hate those. Like, I dunno, allowing evil to exist?
I Love that quote! Almost as much as love to see religious douchebags rage
Without evil there can’t be any good….idiot
That’s like saying it’s impossible to light a candle in daylight.
Idiot.
he’s saying that there cannot be any good because everything would be what we now consider “good” and actually be normal then.
which isn’t good?… it would still be good, we just wouldn’t be calling it good
it’s like finding an element that we never knew existed… it didn’t just start existing once we named it
^ nice
Right, right, no good without evil, no night without day. But if we had constant daylight, it isn’t day that would be lost, it would just be the concept of day. We’d still need rest periods and wakeful periods, and we would have some way of labeling each “day” to distinguish it from the ones before or after. Likewise, we’d still have good, just not the concept of it opposed to evil. It’s a tautological argument that isn’t very useful. Without good, there’d be no not-good. Well, without r@pe there’d be no unr@ped, but is anyone suggesting we keep it so people can be grateful if they fall on the good side of that argument?
^Loved this, great answer.
Same!
^ This is filled with unr@pe
Ok so you believe there can be endless day and all can be perfect. We can all be friends and share … realy
No just like if it was a endless day alot of the life on earth would not be able to adapt and would just die, people would have not free choice the one thing that makes us true humans. If we were unable to decide would we be truly free?
You missed the point. I didn’t say endless day would be fantastic; I said that day wouldn’t be lost, just the concept of it. It was an example to explain that a concept is different from the thing. And whether people truly do have free will is debatable. If God knows everything, then we can only choose to do what he already knows we will choose to do; if you only believe in science, some neuroscientists are saying that we DO things before the reactions in our brain CHOOSE to do them, so choice is an illusion, and we are the product of our chemicals, experiences and knowledge. Of course, the knowledge that we will be punished factors into our “decisions” so we have to still continue to believe in free will regardless, and punish people who don’t act like we say they should.
TL;DR
That’s a shame. You missed a good point. All hail the goldfish!
I’m sorry you don’t have the attention span for a single paragraph.
And you were so likable up until this comment too…
You also seem to miss the point that evolution really does happen, so if there was “endless day,” then everything on Earth would already be adapted to it.
And Layla19 pretty much covered how much you make no sense with the free choice, so ultrakudos to her.
You fail at both religion and science. You should probably quit while you’re devastatingly far behind
We all know evolution exist its in the 7th grade school in the rest of the world. Its on all science channels soo get over yourself. I dont like churches and priests, but its STUPID, IDIOTIC and Ignorant to put all people who have some sort of spirituality in the same pot. Endless day does not exist NOW and on earth, right? Just like we have a option to be good, bad and indifferent,right? If over night these 2 changed what would happen? Plain and simple we cant know the Monkeylord is right, if we had no choise we would have nothing at all
You are missing the original point of why good can exist without evil or any other option. It is just the concept and word that would lose meaning. Just like the day night example so be a religious moron elsewhere.
Absolutely amazing… logical thought and philosophy in action. In a sea of idiocy I just found an island of classical wit and unbridled sanity. I salute you!
Hey, so that’s why priests mollest kids ! To allow consensual sex !
It all makes so much sense now, thanks religion !
I just choked on a bagel bite. Thanks a lot.
That’s the most overused and worst arguement for the existence of evil. ‘Oh these people don’t know what to aspire to, lets bang in some evil to the world so they can have a point of reference…wait what, why are people indulging in it!?’ is not what an omniscient, all loving God would do. Fool.
Wow.. Just gonna take a second to let that sink in..
Ok
The notion that evil is necesarry is like saying that a cup that isn’t full has no volume or worth for that matter. Evil is not a requirement for good. Good happens in the absense fo evil constantly all around us. There is no reason to believe that we can’t have only-good other than the crooked dydact that there is such a thing as a necesarry evil. This is lazy thinking for people who cannot or will not trouble themselves to work for a solution that doesn’t hurt others. If it were really true that we could not have good without evil, nobody would ever work to make the world a better place.
If you can only have 1 option to be good, do you have any free will? What would be the point of anything than?
Free will does not have to be the choice between good an evil it is the choice of what you do. That encompasses more then a moral issue. I suggest you take a entry level psych and philosophy class ASAP.
MikeL Religion has nothing to do with belief in a deity. just because you hate religion doesnt make you athiest. You can still be spiritual without religion.
Cant tell if trolling or just very stupid…
> Since I hate religion, I MUST be an atheist, right?
Umm…
Yes, genius, hating religion is generally the mark of an atheist. It would be quite odd to find a theist who hates religion… and agnostics don’t care one way or another.
So yes, you do fit the stereotype you dug out for yourself.
A brief word of caution: one who hates religion is (in all likelihood) an atheist, but don’t think that all atheists are hostile people who run around saying mean things and acting all condescending towards everyone else. We’re not. All men are human, but not all humans are men. All religion-haters are probably atheists, but not all atheists are religion-haters.
No, atheism is just a lack of belief in deities. There’s no hatred required.
no, but atheism is required for hating religions
Not really. I believe in God but consider organized religions to be basically corrupt and annoying…
I agree completely. There is nothing I hate more in this world than religion, and the idea that any one group, because they believe it, is better than every other group who doesn’t.
People start wars and spread hatred in the name of “God,” and in reality end up betraying their possible deity.
Honestly, I don’t mind the idea of an afterlife, a deity, or fate; in fact, I’d prefer to think that there is. It’s the idea that any one person is any more right than anyone else who has had an idea as to our lives after death.
I find things like The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster to be just as reasonable a theory as Christianity or any other of those organized religions.
How dare you make such a reasonable reply, this is supposed to be a flame war!!
not true Christians tend to hate Muslims which is a religion
A religion. However, last time I checked, Islam wasn’t an all-encompassing religion.
Corcoran – What do you mean, “not all encompassing”? Islam has everything every other religion has – a creation myth, an end-times myth, and laws (Sharia) governing how people must behave, and how non-believers are to be dealt with (not kindly, btw).
So where is it “not all-encompassing”?
Erm… Muslims are a *people*. Islam is a religion though.
Islam is the religion yes, and muslims are the *followers* of that religion. Please phrase yourself better next time, if indeed that is what you meant.
Muslims are not *a* people, but people. A German Muslim and a Muslim from Senegal don’t have much in common, apart from their religion.
Just as Christians are a people, right ?
Yes, in the sense that Christians are a people, Muslims are a people. You get the point I’m trying to make, which was to distinguish between a belief system and the people who follow it.
There’s no such thing as a “christian people”, there’re just christian peoples.
There are you are just really bad a grammatically phrasing that in English. There is a “Christian person,” There are Christian people not peoples.
It’s more the other way round but wtv. Know your stereotypes.
just because it is required doesnt mean each atheist hates religion.
Its like fundamental terrorists. They require a strong believe, but not ever believer is a rerrorist.
You can decline that, but please do me a favour then and shoot yourself for being a potential religious terrorist.
Not really. Most people of faith view 99% of religions negatively- the 99% that aren’t theirs.
Militant atheists just hate one more than everyone else.
this^^
You can believe in a god and still hate religions. You can think that all the religions are wrong. You can think that spiritual belief should be private, or that religions do more harm than good, or that people gathering in large groups is almost never a good idea. None of those ideas negate believing in a god.
No it isn’t. Lack of belief requires no emotion at all.
Atheism is NOT required.
You’ve got misotheists, who believe in God, and hate him.
Also a lot of people are spiritual but don’t belong to a religion, because they don’t like religion, because it causes bad things (at least according to them).
There are also agnostics like me that believe that all notions of supreme entities and afterlife theories don’t matter. The life you lead should be dedicated towards doing the right thing, for the sake of should. Besides, religious hate has caused enough genocides, massacres, and wars to overshadow the ideal of a god.
One of the things that does bother me is the fact that people automatically assume you are atheist if you don’t technically have an organized religion.
In conclusion,
Atheist=doesn’t believe in God
Agnostic=doesn’t care if there is a god.
If you are intelligent, you hate stupidity; you are therefore an atheist, and you recognize religion as organized, collective stupidity.
So it’s true that an atheist is quite likely to hate religion. I certainly do.
But generalization another form of stupidity.
I mean, you can call other people stupid for what they believe in. But they can call you stupid, too. In each others´ eyes, you´re both stupid.
So now you see the futility of it all…
I’m an atheist but I don’t hate religion, I just dont “get” it.
If people take strength from it then whatever.
Being so blinkered by it that you refuse to accept evidence right in front of you of evolution, earth being more than 2000 years old (or whatever it is they claim) IS stupid.
i think they believe the earth is around 6000 year old
lol tards
I hope you realise that there are a few, and I mean a few Christians that are non-literalists and are pluralists. They don’t take the Bible completely seriously, they take morals and messages from the stories, but also believe that everyone has the right to theor own religion and that everyone is right in their own way.
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Well, let us all hope to god(haha!) that their number multiplies, while creationism goes extinct.
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Yeah well, then you return to the big dilemma, if you start to fish out stuff from the bible that are true/useful, and those that are not, what are you criteria to do so? I basically once asked this question to myself, and it’s there where I decided to reject all of it as a block. I can get morals from elsewhere…
To be fair, there a lot of contradictory quotes in the Bible, some people even use it to support racism and sexism. I don’t really take much from the Bible, I also agree that morals are easier to find elsewhere. However, stories like ‘The Good Samaritan’ have morals which can be helpful.
H*ll yea! Good point, that is the mine type of thing! Believing in Jesus Christ and being a Christian, but don’t take that stuff with the condoms, etc that often the church restricts(and often later rehabilitates). A man should hear his inner voice… the one that the Holy Spirit quietly whispers. That is always the right thing to do. If you can hear it course.
As far as atheist and other non believers goes … it’s their decision(although it might change in the future, no matter what they say now), and i am sure their position is a pretty sad one
I can only speak for myself on this one, but it was never a decision to be an atheist for me. I tried for years and years to force myself to believe, and could not. So “becoming” an atheist was not so much a decision, as just recognizing that I did not believe. And yes, it may change in the future…with evidence. I’m just not built (figure of speech, not literal) to believe in things. I do not find it sad to be an atheist. Sometimes I miss the community, the feeling of belonging to something much, much larger than humans can manage, but it doesn’t make me sad. What did make me sad was wondering why a god who loved us would let so much of the world suffer so much. I am much happier now, thank you, and no longer fear hell, although I was (and am) moral and behaved well both before and after identifying as an atheist.
Its stupid to believe Atheist are somehow superior. Most atheists are smug and selfcentered. I make my money of computer programming and i dont mind lighting a candle from time to time. I am a ortodox christian from a country where the priests drive S class mercedes and tell the people to be humble and fear god more. I hate these people but i believe there is a much much deeper meaning in the philosophy, NOT in the perversion the atheists like to see. When people are stupid fuccks they will be stupid atheists or religious freaks. Also i read all your comments its pathetic to cry for soo much attention.
About freedom of choice… the actions begins in the subconcion before the brain can give the command, ok maybe but if you take 1 hour to make a important decision is this still predetermined? Do you realy believe in the Athene theory that time and space is the same thing and times runs back as space expands? i liked that theory but i cant accept it. It would mean all is predetermind and i think i have the freedom to determine my own future
One could consider me a atheist, i have not been to church in 3-4 years i have never prayed. But why is it soo hard to pick up a bible other religious book and think about the meaning behind it. Spirituality is something deep and something personal. I watched the zeitgeist movies and their merciless decomposition of christianity and i agreed with them, but later i saw them beg for money they claim is the root of all evil and i give it all second thought. It is easy to get cought up in the big theories, and new hard science facts but the more we learn the more we have to realize that we know less than 1% of the mysteries of the universe. We will die and rot way before we have any of the answers we want to know. Why is it wrong for someone who reads science fiction, listens to Tool (anti-religous band btw), likes Ricky Gervais and other atheistic artists to say “I Believe in something bigger than all of us”. Telling me i cant do that you try to deprive me of my free choice and noone has that right
@ Monkylord- I don’t think I ever told you you couldn’t believe in something. If I did, I apologize. Believe what you want.
@Dragoryn- Where did I say atheists are superior? Perhaps you have me confused with the voices in your head. And participating in a debate is hardly a cry for attention. Projecting? And quit reading all my comments, you creepy creeper.
Did you just describe yourself? If so then very good, the world needs more people like yourself.
^
This
I am the same way. I call it Neo-pagan-Christanbuhdisumagnostic ^_^ I am glad that you have the same thoughts as I do about religion.
I’m also glad that I have found someone else who feels the same way
I believe that more Christians should try and accept others views rather than just decide to condemn them.
Agreed.
So believing the Earth is 6000 years old without proof makes me a retard, but believing that it is 3.4-4 billion years old, also without proof, makes you intelligent? The thing is that believing in evolution takes just as much faith as believing in creationism, if not more. Creationists believe that a divine being, in my case a loving God, created the world. Evolutionists believe that there was nothing, not even matter, and that somehow organic molecules appeared, exploded and released enough energy to create life. Scientists have already come to the conclusion that the “big bang” theory is absurd and impossible. They just don’t have another idea as to how life came to be, except that God created the world, and they won’t dare say that, as the majority of experts in this field are atheists. There are multiple evidences for the biblical prospective of life. These evidences, however, are used on both sides of the argument. The underlying problem here is hyperpartisanism. Most evolutionists refuse to even consider the ideas of creationism, and vice versa.
You understand neither the theory of evolution nor the believ in creation if you think they’re mutually exclusive.
Sorry: belief. Typo.
(Further note: the big bang theory is not the same thing as the theory of evolution. “Where did the universe come from” and “Where did life come from” are not the same question, even if a creationist sees them as having the same answer.)
Agreed. Also worth noting is that the questions of “Where did life come from” and “What happened with this ‘life’ thing after that?” are distinct as well.
which scientists said the big bang theory is absurd and imopssible? And evolution does not require “faith”.. because there is evidence..lots of it..
What makes people intelligent, is observing our reality and making rational decisions on what we see and what we can test. All evidence we have found points to evolution, while creation stories from most major religions were written 1000s of years ago. Creationism is basically completely ignoring a ton of evidence right in front of you and not willing to search for answers in areas we don’t fully understand yet (e.g. a biogenesis, which is separate from evolution by the way).
Also, take an astronomy course at your local college or something. The Big Bang theory is what happened, as seen in evidence in the cosmic microwave background and the uniform percentage of helium to hydrogen found in all stars in the universe. Look it up.
I don’t know what kind of brainwashing you’ve been subject to, but there is plenty of proof for both the 4 billion year old world and evolution. If someone could get as much evidence for creationism as there is for evolution, maybe scientists would take you seriously. All you have to go on is the bible, and the bible is true because the bible says it is true. Just google evolution for all the evidence we have…
Also, a LOT of scientists become atheists AFTER becoming scientists, and the more they understand about science, the more they feel that a god was NOT involved. Scientists don’t hate religion, and unfairly ignore it. They like PROOF.
You can’t pick and choose the bits of science you like!! The PROOF of the 4 billion year old world (and to a lesser extent evolution) is what drives your car. Oil COULD NOT EXIST in a 6000 year old world.
Look, the Big Bang Theory does have proof. I have a GCSE in Astronomy and know that the background radiation and red and blue spectrums support this. You can be Christian and believe in the Big Bang Theory as I do. There is so much proof to back it up. In fact, some Christians believe that God could have started the Big Bang.
perhaps God caused the big bang, and the us of several thousand years ago just couldn’t understand that concept and made up something that sounded nice.
^THAT while I now consider myself agnostic, I had that belief as a christian, The bible was written thousands of years ago when there was less understanding of the way things worked back then people
might not have accepted that the world could be so old so when God inspired the bible he told the story of creation in such a way that it would be understood and accepted at that time.
Oh dear, there is so much wrong here it’s painful.
All I can suggest is taking basic science classes. I’m not sure who’s been lying to you – a preacher, a Creationist blog, your parents, or whatever – but I’m pretty sure your religion strictly prohibits that.
Please, you’ve clearly been the victim of indoctrination but let us try to call out to your ability to reason; are you seriously suggesting that scientists, even the religious ones apparently, have decided on hugely elaborate stories as an alternative to saying Godidit even though they know Godidit (but are still somehow atheists despite knowing that God exists and that Godidit, bizarrely)? How did they manage to fabricate such huge abundances of evidence all over the globe, including within every single life form?
There is no ‘faith’ involved in accepting evolution happened. It’s not a matter of opinion, I’m afraid. It’s an observed fact and logical necessity. You can’t possibly believe that it takes faith to ‘believe’ it happened, the idea is simply laughable. It’s the most heavily supported scientific theory (and from your post I expect I’ll have to explain that theory doesn’t guess, it means explanation) of all time and is supported by pretty much every subject you can think of.
Actually, most of the Atheists I know, including myself, don’t hate religion. We can be very tolerant if necessary(oh, say, if we live in a community in which the majority of the population is religious and we actually want friends). Not to mention that religion is a huge part of history and the arts. Personally, I actually want to read the bible, but only as a work of historical fiction loosely based upon fact.
See? Not everything is not as it seems.
I am a theist who hates religion. Your argument is invalid.
I’m atheist who dislike religion.
But I hate the religious jerk who like to belittle me or others for either having no faith or of different faith.
Actually, not believing in a higher power is generally the mark of an Atheist. Agnostics generally believe in something, but don’t know what. I believe in a higher power, but don’t know what it is, and I also hate organized religion. What does that make me?
Someone willing to make up his own mind?
You won . Twice in a row.
Bi-winning!
I see. So when you mature, you begin to believe in virgin births, resurrection, all-knowing fairies who are in constant psychic communication with their worshippers, and the Red Sea parting on command.
I prefer immaturity, then, if the alternative is wilfully cultivated stupidity.
When your mature you don’t act like you are above others for their belifes and accept them for their flaws.
*you’re, *beliefs
Your*
(Ignore me I’m trollin’)
Pot, meet kettle.
Darrell wins.
That, my friend, is the same stupidity taken to the hundredth power. Do you even consider the possibility of there being some people who hold beliefs AND are not hillbillies from Texas? I feel sorry for your ignorance. But then again, you are american…
[See what I did here? I just used the same stupid generalization that you did. Did not mean to offend.]
Ahh yes, hurling insults at a huge amount of people because one person spoke badly of your precious religion. You, sir, are clearly the epitome of maturity.
u jelly bro?
Oh look! Another retard who thinks he’s smart for believing in Santa Claus! Good for you!
Learn how to spell the word atheist first!
You are not as smart as you think you are.
Does finding something funny demonstrates how smart a person is?
You’re quite messed up.
Successful troll is successful. VERY successful.
That he is…
you just had to start a pointless flame war didn’t you.
but i agree, people who thing theres a magical bearded man in the sky are kinda funny.
Successful troll is successful
and u shall burn in hell
Check out the dinosaur’s expression, classic “I claim this land in the name of…”. Nobility.
Dino 1: And we shall call it…….this land……
Dino 2: I think we should call it your grave!
And that’s how Dinosaurs actually came to be found in the ground.
Ahh! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal
+10 golden internats for the Firefly reference.
Firefly is ridiculously overrated.
That is MUCH more likely to be believed in Kansas than Texas.
Have you seen a textbook in Texas?
Yes. They are actually pretty much the same as everywhere else. The Kanas makes it more believable or even Tennessee, i.e. the Scopes Trail.
I’d like to point out that while Kansas and Texas are generally Hicksville, Jesusland, the major cities (Kansas City and Austin) are fairly liberal.
i wouldn’t call Austin the major city, it’s just the capitol…but yes it is hilariously weird there.
Wouldent call Austin a major city? 790,390 people? sure its not newyork but thats almost as much as detroit.
It’s not *the* major city. Especially with only 790 thousand people living there.
Jesusland?
Yes, you’re right, the black churches in Houston are…
Oh wait, you weren’t meaning to bash black worshippers?
Well then.
Tommy’s right, Austin (while awesome) is hardly a major city. Kind of hard to call Texas Hicksville when you don’t even know our major cities (which happen to be pretty damn diverse), Houston especially.
personally, i prefer dallas. houston’s a little too humid for me
Hello. I live in Tennessee, and have for my whole life. I live about 3 hours from Dayton, TN where the Scopes trial took place. It is not even a large city where everyone is thought to be more liberal than the smaller towns. I was taught evolution in school and no, there were none of biases that you seem to think held over from 86 years ago.
Plus, we know how to spell the word KANSAS.
That is all.
That was quite an energetic response. (Mffpphhh *bites lower lip not to laugh*)
Thank You. We are just as smart as yall. Most of us do not own horses or cattle. We just can’t keep the rednecks and the stereotypes off the tv
Yeah, I lived there for two years.
I went to school in Texas. They teach evolution…
Because religion is NOT a history and science class! I go to Harmony Science Acadamy and evolution is very very likely and you people just have to to cling to your little books.
I’m a democrat and an aithest and i’m 11 and a girl and i live in north Texas.
Because religion is NOT a history and science class! I go to Harmony Science Acadamy and evolution is very very likely and you people just have to to cling to your little books.
I’m a democrat and an aithest and i’m 11 and a girl and i live in north Texas.
That’s for sure. In Texas they don’t even believe dinosaurs existed.
Sure we do. How else would you explain oil?
F|_|ckin’ miracle? The magnets did it I tell you. (Or is that what those in Utah believe?)
way to generalize millions of people, you sure are mature /sarcasm
no it is Georgia because they are 2 years behind everyone else last time i checked.
Nah. I live in Kansas, and we have normal, scientific textbooks. But that doesnt stop the religious people here from believing the most retarded things.
Thank you finally!! Someone who has a sterotype on their state with some sense!
Didn’t Texas recently stop teaching Creationism?
no, it is illegal to teach any form of “religion” we teach what the feds. tell us too. Since we are still federally funded.
No, we didn’t teach it. The state school board would like us to introduce “intelligent design” (AKA religion without saying the G-word). I’ll have to double-check the current TEKS, but I don’t think it’s officially in yet.
Doesn’t bother me; I address evolution, creationism, alien seeding and the Flying Spaghetti Monster when I start the unit, then quietly keep working with evolution the rest of the year.
I don’t know if they can
Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District, 2005
http://bit.ly/dVvLvP
This would be more along the lines of Kentucky. They got the creationist museum there.
Ah, the allmighty Creationist museum; with its proud display of a history spanning for a staggering 6000 years!
“We will rule over this land, and we will call it…’this land’!”
Win!
I think we should call it your grave!
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
HAHAHAARGH! Mine is an evil laugh!
The person who made this surely realizes the whole Texas school book things was a big lie created by the left? Perhaps he needs to go read a book instead of spreading propaganda.
Do we really have to bring politics into a joke site now? Go home.
You’ve got your left confused with your right.
…No, definitely the left.
NowhereMan> …big lie created by the left?
Hodge> You’ve got your left confused with your right.
The right is spreading negative propaganda about the right?
That doesn’t make sense kiddo.
It’s all part of a plot by the Right to make people think the Left are a bunch of Trolls. They’re also secretly pushing for gay marriage in order to breed the gays out of existence. It’s true, I read it on Blogspot.
i believe he was talking about lefthanded
I’m sure this is taught in GA too. Them backwards rednecks believe anything.
im from Georgia and im agnostic but yes most of us are religious very much so
Hey now, I’ve lived in Georgia since I was five. And trust me, they teach evolution, not some religiously-biased garbage.
Granted, there are a TON of idiot rednecks around, and I know a few of them. They tend to give me a good laugh when they talk of how the bible has been scientifically proven to be 80-90% accurate.
Know what’s funny? I live in Tx and i love you Georgian people but people call it the “Texas” accent but the only person i know with that seemingly “Texas accent” is a transfer from Georgia.
Oh, you mean the same kind of Texas classroom that helped me get into an Ivy League School?
F&*% this noise!
I’m Texan, and our schools don’t teach creationism.
I’m Ray William Johnson, and I approve this message.
Way to sound redneck while calling them redneck
Ahh, fond memories of going to high school in Oklahoma, and seeing a girl in strangler jeans, cowboy boots, and a plaid button-up shirt claim that “Texans are just a bunch of rednecks.”
i live in texas and this isn’t funny like I’m not saying this because it’s making fun of me or anything this was just a crappy joke… I’m actually really smart… my IQ is 145 =P
The only thing your IQ is good for is joining Mensa, and the stuff they offer for joining isn’t worth the cost, anyway. IQ does not necessarily mean “smart” since everyone defines it differently, and it can refer to “book-learnin,’” “Street smarts,” “emotional intelligence,” or any number of things specific to different fields. Autistic savants (apologies if this is no longer correct term, no offense meant) are often very, very smart in their specialty but often are not well adapted to communication or social smarts. I found this joke amusing because I enjoy silly dinosaur jokes, regardless of whether they’re poking fun of someone else, too (and I’m from Texas).
P.S. I have also gotten 145 on an IQ test, but I found it more amusing than something to brag about, because I’m sometimes quite stupid. I try to put on my shoes before my pants roughly three times a week.
Also it is possible to improve on your IQ score by practicing IQ tests, they can be a pretty poor measure of intelligence.
Is anyone else wondering where the dinosaur got the shovel?
Through Jesus all things are possible.
+10 internets
Thank god some one else was wondering about that! I was so confused how he was going to dig with his little arms.
I must have missed this page in my textbook. It was probably in the chapter about Creationism vs. Evolution crap that everyone whines about.
Anyone wanna buy Rapture insurance, for the loved ones left behind? Because you can.
Investment fail. If they get left behind, why would we love them?
Are we talking about Rapture, the underwater city, or Rapture, the religon thing?
which would you pay us more for? =D
you people are retarded. im damn sure that i learn the same thing as any of yall. Educate yourself, you peckerhead
wtf. why Texas? i’m from Texas and iv’e lived all over the country, the text books being almost identical. I think this would fit Arkansas better bro. btw, you count on one of those dislikes to be from me.
I live in TX too, and you have to admit our state is one of the biggest republican/christian states in the US.. either way, it’s still hilarious.
Well yeah, it’s one of the biggest any states in the US. Only Alaska is bigger, and Alaska is mostly frozen tundra and/or great fishing, depending on which TV show you watch.
Know what’s funny?
I’m from Texas and i’m Aithest and Democratic and i’m 11 and a girl.
And i have dreams for being in the House of Reps.
Or a least a Senator.
Texas produces the textbooks.
We don’t actually produce the texts. It’s just that as such an incredibly large purchaser (the state, when new books are adopted), the state has an awful lot of influence on what goes into the books.
Texas also has the strictest regulations on what can go into text books & its cheaper to mass produce them to Texas’ standards as opposed to other states more lenient standards. So when It is decided what goes into a textbook in the US for k-12 it is usually based off of those standards. Which have taught me in Minnesota, a very liberal state…
Ha ha! All southerners, especially white males, are stupid! Racist stereotypes are fun!
(Yes, you CAN be racist towards white males o_0)
You can be racist towards anyone.
But pretty well as far as anyone is concerned, only white people can be racist.
Hmm. I agree with MrNiceGuy. It’s only considered racist if a white person does it. But do you qualify as racist if you hate everyone equally?
I hate everyone equaly (everyone but me)
Some (polititians and lawyers) are more equal than others
If you hate everybody, I think that’s technically considered being a Misanthropist. I suppose in a sci-fi or fantasy setting you could just be racist towards humans in general though.
That would then be “speciesism”.
Gawd, I hate it when sci-fi/fantasy mixes up the meanings of “species” and “race” to mean whatever left-leaning social message they wish to spew. The distinction between the two words gets lost in the public mind, and bad policy is made on this muddling.
To wit, Star Trek: Enterprise. In the final series, a bad guy stole DNA from a human and a Vulcan officer, to genetically-engineer a baby (which later died), to show people what an abomination such a thing would be (?!). We are expected to find the bad guy a horrible person for being against this “race-mixing”. Ah, but humans and Vulcans are different _SPECIES_ – hence the complicated genetic procedure. Now, would the high-minded folks who wrote this feel the same if it were a human-chimp cross? After all, we’re talking DIFFERENT SPECIES, and intelligence has nothing to do with it.
Or would they advocate humans screwing chimps, just as they advocate humans screwing aliens?
Chimpanzees can’t give consent, though.
Neither did the crew members whose DNA was stolen.
Anyway, who says they can’t? Are you unaware of the fact that they can learn American Sign Language?
You asked, “Would they advocate humans screwing chimps, just as they advocate humans screwing aliens.” That is the part I was talking about. Aliens, of sufficiently advanced intelligence, can give consent. If you want chimps to be able to give consent, you’ll have to march on Washington. There’s kinda laws against it now.
But on Meth they can.
METH: Not Even Once!
Lol, go ahead, be racist against white guys. They don’t care…
This HAS to be the best theory ever! LOL
Agh, monotheist theories… they’re so ridiculously funny you don’t know you should laugh or cry…
You’re right!
We should totally get some polytheist theories goin’ on.
Mars, Diana, and Set… here I come!
You confused ”theories” with ”myths”.
Meanwhile, while Texas is the only state that can legally secede, this makes no sense?
No state can legally secede, you idiot. Did you not get to the American Civil War in history class yet?
Any state can secede if they want to. Doesn’t mean it will go over well with everyone else, though.
Sort of…Any State in the Union has the right to nullify an Act, Law, etc. passed by Congress if they can prove that they have good cause and the measure is carried by their State legislature. This is including in Alien and Sedition Acts, specifically the Virginia and Kentucky clauses (penned by Thomas Jefferson). During the American Civil War the States that seceded from the Union chose to nullify the Consitution of The United States. Lincoln then proceeded to ignore the Constitution as well, and placed a naval blockade around his own country. Which brings up whether or not the Constitution is valid or just convenient, lol.
Well, any constitution is nothing more than words on paper, utterly powerless in and of itself. Its power comes from people agreeing to abide by what it says.
If the people no longer can agree, then the piece of paper becomes as meaningless as yesterday’s grocery list.
Any state can secede but since Texas was annexed by mutual treaty rather than purchased or conquered, it is the only state guaranteed automatic recognition as a separate country by the U.S. And several other countries in the world (i.e. Most countries in a political alliance with the U.S.)
Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other “free and independent State”) from the United States. Joining the “Union” was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option.
During the Civil War era the Confederate States (including Texas) withdrew from the Union lawfully, civilly, and peacefully, after enduring several decades of excessive and inequitable federal tariffs (taxes) heavily prejudiced against Southern commerce. The South’s rejoining the Union at the point of a bayonet in the late 1860s didn’t prove secession is “not an option” or unlawful. It only affirmed that violent coercion can be used—even by governments.
Wow, ace job of quoting a website! And blithely ignoring that your “Southern commerce” was primarily fueled on the backs of /slave labor/. You’ll have to excuse those of us that think it was an unbearable way of life and one that went on for a shamefully long time.
That being said, in all fairness I’m sure there are just as many religious morons in Texas as there are in any other state.
Sigh. Yes, slavery is bad. However, keep in mind that the Brits/Americans only tapped into a pre-existing market in black African slaves, run by Arab Moslems for centuries before we started buying. Oh, and slave-hunting was done by Africans themselves.
American blacks should be thankful they fell into the hands of Brits/Americans and not the Muslims. For one thing, the whites allowed them to breed (Muslim slave-owners like to neuter their slaves). And what sensible American black really wishes his ancestors had been left in Africa, for him to be born there today?
You’d have to be nuts to wish that.
Something tells me we made this a religion debate over nothing.
It’s not saying anything religious, at least as far as I can tell. It’s not like it’s saying that God was punishing them for Gluttony, it’s just saying they ate all the food and couldn’t find more-a legitimate way for a species to die out.
Something tells me this was a cute little quip for kids that no-one was supposed to take seriously. It’s like taking science from a comedic faux-science book that included little bits like funny fake dinosaurs and a color-by-dots of ancient ridiculously impossible creatures (Saber-Toothed Kitten, anyone?)
Impossible creatures? that’s a great game!!!!!
Yep the picture is from a site called fake science.
http://fakescience.tumblr.com/
Wow you’d figure people cruising very demotivational might have a sense of humor. The comments on here are crazy. Take it over to fox forums you guys.
Somehow, I’m included to believe that this image was created by the Mormons. After all, they believe the magnets work because the magnets have pieces of gravity stuck in them. The kind of mind that can believe that nonsense can believe this absurdity too.
Now look sad and say: “Morons”
Mormons == Morons
don’t mess with the Mormons – they have magic underwear
+1 internetz for everyone that calls morons to mormons
Well, being from one of the most conservative areas in Texas, I can honestly say, nope….not even close. Our textbooks are literally the same as everywhere else…including the fact that we were taught the theory of evolution in high school. I don’t know why Texas was picked for this one since Texas, although conservative, doesn’t even come close to some states. In fact, I’m not sure if this goes under ultra-conservative or not….most people I know from the deep south bible belts don’t actually believe dinosaurs existed…
No…A school in Texas wouldn’t admit to the existence of dinosaurs.
Really? Do yourself a favor and look at how many leading Anthropologists and Archaeologists received all or part of their education in Texas.
What wonderful, superior place are you from that allows you to run, ego unchecked through the interwebs?
You’re on a site like this and you can’t see a pretty obvious joke?
It’s the Internet. EVERYTHING HERE IS SERIOUS.
Except for the Joker, obviously. He’s confused as to why everything is so serious.
The obvious joke would use Kansas, not Texas. I’m not even FROM there and I know this.
A funny joke gets a pass on technicality issues. Since this joke sucked, it gets no such leeway.
No, public schools admit Dinosaurs existed. At least, mine does…
This image said nothing of religion. You children are retards.
Almost as retarded as the moron who made this, and cannot tell the difference between TX and KS.
Nowhere near as moronic, however, as the people who equate liberalism with intelligence or education level. You kids get a special sticker for the day.
Stupidity, as this picture and these comments prove, knows no political or regional boundaries.
Lovingly yours,
-a guy form the country with more brains, education, and life experience than you.
Ok Mr High-and-Mighty, who shoved the silver spoon up your ass and made you better than everyone else? Glad you have the education to be smart enough to see that the existence of dinosaurs is one of the points of debate for religions.
As your own comment proves, “Stupidity…knows no political or regional boundaries.” I even quoted it for you. No go back to you supposedly superior country of Imaginationland and tell the Lion from Narnia I’m still waiting for his challenge.
^This!
it’s not just dinossaurs. It’s, basically, every extinct species that ever existed (99% of all living creatures that ever existed) and evolution.
Awwww, I get under your skin? Scroll up and look at the image, Mister Quotes, and quote me where it mentions religion. This is a leap taken by every smarmy little twit like yourself.
I stand by my post:
-The image makes no mention of religion.
-Assuming the religious implication, the image still got the state wrong. It was Kansas, not Texas that went to court over creationist public curriculum. Proof that self-righteous children like yourself are NOT as smart as you think you are.
Ok, I just mentioned the fact that dinosaurs are one of the main points of debate for religious fanatics and you still don’t think this has anything to do with religion? Granted this didn’t need to turn into a religious debate but as usual only one person needs to say one thing and it becomes one.
Also I actually mentioned Kansas and even the Scopes Trial earlier so obviously you don’t care to read too many comments. But whatever, since I’m apparently a child I’ll just go eat some Cheetos and drink my apple juice.
U mad, jelly, butthurt AND typing furiously with typically ‘american youtube response’ defense words? Trolled without even trying..
Wow, what a well thought out response. Indicative of your overall philosophy, no doubt.
TROLLLOLOLOL
I’m just sayin’
Far more well thought out than yours. His actually has a point. Yours just say “ur all stupid american kids lololololol”.
Hey, wait, that’s not… yeah, it’s true…
It’s absolutely ridiculous! The dinosaurs wouldn’t use a shovel to dig with, that’d take to long.
They’d use a backhoe. Duh.
A track excavator?
Piffle!
Them bastages used dynamite.
Which btw, explains all the busted bones.
I rest my case!
That’s just sad… I dont know if I have to blame the oblivious Americans or the obvlious religion
Isn’t Texas ranked 46th out of 50 in education (for those who cannot tell, 1 being the best, 50 being the worst) or something to that extent? So that means there are less intelligent states. You can’t explain that. (And Texas even gets all the Mexicans.)
Thank gods the Mexicans made Texas gain some ranking by pulling the average up.
Please shush. I’m from Tx and i’m 11 and i read at a post high school level and read college books. i’m in the Above averege classes. All of them and i’m just about to enter 6th grade.
Based on research done by the American Legislative Exchange Council, Texas is ranked 8th based on standardized testing of 4th and 8th graders nationwide. Whether or not standardized testing works is an entirely different conversation.
http://www.alec.org/am/pdf/education/2010_reportcard/state_pdfs/tx2010.pdf
I think we are all missing the point here.
That dinosaur has a shovel! How does he dig with his little arms? Or how did he make the shovel with his little arms?
[/injecting humour]
That’s what I’m saying! He’d have to use a front-end loader or a backhoe.
Also, heh, you said “injecting”.
I think it’s obvious the T-Rex didn’t dig his own hole, he either a) made another dinosaur his biatch and forced it to dig the hole for him or b) looked though the yellow pages and hired a contractor…
You’re right, I think he definitely brought in some Mexican Day Laborers.
ooh, that would also solve his problem of “What’s for dinner?”
He IS a Humanitarian, after all!
You are all idiots. Successful troll is successful. Get a job. Or a pet. Or something.
Too many right hands appear to be non-usable.
lol at atheism and religion and agnosticism
religious people are nothing more but agnosts, hence their evergoing quest to try to prove the existence of God and yet up until now they cannot.
i refuse to be in one of those groups, as i am not connected to “God” the almighty brainwasher. i have read and heard about bibilical texts. oh the joy of trying to prove that god does not exist. useless and a waste of time.
i am a human being with human rights
I didn’t start the flamewar! YAY
♫It was always burning since the world was turning…♫
*God Is Not Great* by Christopher Hitchens. Read it!
Anyone realised, that only Americans (Yes yes, with small exeptions and no – I don’t mean all Americans by that) are stupid enough to believe such bullsh*t?
Well, no, I do know some people that believe things like this and that are not americans.
And we wonder why our kids are STUPID!!!
U guys r all teh dumber then me lol. lol. lol. lol. u need 2 assurtain intelejance. Idiot Attheists, idit theists, idiot trolls, idiot troll spoturs who use the usual vurbatum (liek “trolololo’ r wwut ‘Me” sed. u mus all com from 50 of 50 state. I come from 1 of 50. Life-noobs hoo arent orijanal.
Wow, apparently Texas + Dinosaur joke = a lot of comments. You would think some of these people commenting would have a sense of humour. They are on a joke site after all.
Meanwhile… in the US of A.
Honestly, you people are sooooooo uptight about religion…
Not uptight at all.
The vikings said it best eons ago and we still say it today even after heathen was made out to be a derogatory word.
“You have your gods and I have mine.
Atheism has no relatioship with hatred
Atheism has no relationship with religion
Atheism has no relationship with evolution
Not all religions have a God
Not all Gods have a religion
Many people who believe in a God hate all religions
If you want people to take you seriously as a theist you have to stop being academically lazy and actually learn what Athism is. Treating it like anti-christianity makes you and others of your faith look stupid and it teaches you an worldview that prevents you from dealing effectively with the majority of humans on the planet.
Ramen! I follow the FSM in an attempt to try and maintain my sense of humor in the face of religious fanatics and those who espouse atheism. I have no feelings about it one way or another. If there is one great Cosmic Being running the whole show he must have one hell of a waped sense of humor. If that be the case, we will get along quite well. ARRRR!
wait. so they played minecraft too?
Well this demotivational is purty dang funny.
Shame about all the folks gettin all bent outta shape over it.
Epic Flamewars are always funny!
Sometimes.
They can be tedious.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
-Epicur
Please, may the one who is able to get his religion out of that one please step forward?
I´ll be waiting…
You, sir, have earned all the internets.
MEANWHILE….In a very demotivational comment thread…..
this is a joke right? they dont teach that in USA?!
No, we don’t teach that. Some little groups believe dinos aren’t real, and some want to teach creationism in schools, so this joke is kind of playing on the absurdity of non-science in science class. This, so far as I know, has never even been suggested. There is a rule, though, that every joke you think is too ridiculous will eventually become true. I look forward to that dinosaur book when it comes out.
Just as valid as any other argument I’ve heard. Not a comment on religion, (Unless you believe the earth was created somewhere around 6000 years ago or so?) More a comment on extinction. Only problem is that we didn’t find any shovels at the bottom of the holes. All arguments are invalid until we create time travel! Live with it. Humans rule! (for a little while)
What ya think?
I just facepalm. If real. Should stop being surprised; need more pessismism.
Mkay so this picture somehow morphed from a low-blow to Texans (p.s. Ef you you northern douche) to an argument about atheism (p.p.s. Religion is not a joke, go blow yourself you atheist pricks). How does that work out?
P.p.p.s. I’ve lived in Texas all my life, and though I can’t remember a full unit on the extinction of the dinosaurs, it has managed to rear its ugly head every year. On that note, not even the morons who make 20s in science have proposed something on this level of stupidity. Just in case you guys were wondering.
You should become a comedian.
This is such a ridiculous demotivational… everyone knows that T.Rex had tiny McNugget forearms, and could NEVER use a shovel. Harumph!
And yes, I’m from Texas, too. I thought this was funny, in a painful sort of way. We still have yahoos on the State Board of Education trying to get creationism taught in science classes, and we have a creation museum just down the road from… wait for it… Fossil Rim National Park. *facepalm* If you don’t laugh at it, you’d just have to cry.
so God created the dinosaur, then discovered his mistake and sent a meteor into the Earth so there would be an ice age and that wiped them out and then God created light and read a book called “Creation for Idiots”
While I’m not saying that this isn’t occasionally (unfortunately) true, I’d just like to say that I’m from Texas, believe that evolution is a valid theory, and I’m a devout Christian.
Also? this joke was funny. You guys taking it seriously/being ignorant enough to think it was true? not so much. Many thanks to AFP and Blarney for their attempts at SRS BZNSS/ignorant folk damage control
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That was supposed to look like the Flying Nun, but it just looks like a guy in a funny hat who got nut-checked with a potato.
I don’t get it. How is this funny?
it’s funny because it’s unbelivable stupid. if you can’t see how stupid it is, i have bad news for you…..
If you’ve ever looked into the public education system in Texas, this is hilarious. It’s in the bottom five states CONSISTENTLY in almost every education-related statistic.
Though I wonder if it has to do with the homeschooling rate and the rate of millionaires.
I have to ask whether the creator of this poster has ever set foot in Texas, because I’m guessing they haven’t.
Dinosaurs invented shovels?